scutter
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 02:45 PM |
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Zetec fun
How hard should it be to turn an engine over using a socket on the crank pully nut?
This is following on from my thread of the starter not being able to spun the engine over. From what I recall I was able to turn over the X-flow when
setting the valve clearances.
Does anyone have any idea on what to check, before I rip the engine out and apart?
Sorry forgot to add, blacktop zetec, 1800flywheel, clutch cover and plate, capri release bearing and arp conrod bolts.
ATB Dan.
[Edited on 9/6/08 by scutter]
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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mikeb
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 02:50 PM |
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I can turn mine with my standard socket set, but tend to use my torque rench as it has a longer arm.
Mike
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ash_hammond
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 02:52 PM |
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Sorry to state the abvious - is it in gear? 
.: www.mac1motorsports.co.uk | www.m1moc.com :.
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scutter
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 02:59 PM |
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Thought as much, bugger cars beginning to hack me off.
I had the car out off gear, then put it in 5th to see if it'll spin over a little, it did but not by much.
So still the saga continues. time to swip the hoist from work me thinks.
ATB Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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tim windmill
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 03:03 PM |
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as far as i can remember i could turn our 2.0 blacktop over using a standard wrench and socket, we are using the zetec 1.8 flywheel, clutch and cover
but the release bearing was supplied by westfiled with a spacer fixed to the bearing. Is this the same as the capri bearing?what starter motor are you
using? is your starter motor locking the flywheel ?
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bartonp
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 03:05 PM |
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Makes it easier if the plugs are out too....
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Mix
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 04:17 PM |
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Hi
I can turn my 2.0l Zetec by hand, (just), from the crank pulley whilst the engine is out of the car and the plugs are out. I have turned my 2.0l
Mundano engine easily with a socket and a 12" extension whilst fitted with the plugs in place.
Have you tried turning the engine with the clutch disengaged...........just a thought, eliminate one more possibility.
Regards Mick
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big_wasa
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 04:17 PM |
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Yep I can turn mine over by hand.
rebuilt 2L
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 04:52 PM |
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what torque you use on the big ends?slacken them one at a time
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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bob
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 05:03 PM |
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Yup as above, did it turn over ok before you fitted the ARP bolts ?
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zetec7
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 07:36 PM |
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Exercise caution when turning over the motor by the pulley bolt on the Zetec. My buddy got over zealous on his 2.0 Zetec doing this, and sheared off
the bolt...
http://www.freewebs.com/zetec7/
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Danozeman
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 08:51 PM |
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Mines turns by hand with the plugs out and nicely with a ratchet with them in.
Does it turn with the plugs out? Did you oil the shells when it went back together??
Do the cams turn freely when the belts off? Ie Is it definatley the crank thats tight..
Try every idea before u pull the engine out.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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chasmon
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 09:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scutter
I had the car out off gear, then put it in 5th to see if it'll spin over a little, it did but not by much.
Why in 5th...?
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Cheffy
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 09:36 PM |
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Evening Daniel,
Just been out and tried mine. Turns over okay with a long extension on a socket. That's with the plugs in, but obviously that's on the
engine stand with no clutch or any other gubbins attached.
Mart.
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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MikeR
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| posted on 9/6/08 at 09:43 PM |
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if your pushing the car you've got the biggest multiplier. pushing it in first would be murder!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/6/08 at 12:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by robocog
Can spin my 2 litre silvertop by the pulley bolt
I was a bit concerned that the torque on the big ends didn't seem a lot considering the stress/work they do, but followed instructions to the
letter
The tighter they are the more the stress they have to deal with!
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scutter
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| posted on 11/6/08 at 03:17 PM |
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Well a quick update, it appears the arp bolts were to blame, i'm sure that I did the correctly.
After 20minute prying off the steel section of the sump, No.2,3&4 bigend bolts were very tight., all re-torqued to 26lbs ft.
We'll see if they go tight again with oil px.
ATB Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 11/6/08 at 04:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scutter
Well a quick update, it appears the arp bolts were to blame, i'm sure that I did the correctly.
After 20minute prying off the steel section of the sump, No.2,3&4 bigend bolts were very tight., all re-torqued to 26lbs ft.
They must have been massively over tightened to make the crank bind up!
Are the bearings definitely fitted correctly and of the correct size? Have the bearing caps have all been mated back to their correct locations?
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scutter
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| posted on 12/6/08 at 07:51 AM |
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All i did to the engine at the time was spin it over in the stand, and replace the bolts i didn't even check the condition of the bearings, so
nothing else has been disturbed.
Just thinking, I have fitted a modded ie shortened shaft V6 gearbox, i wonder if it's too tight a fit.
ATB Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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