focijohn
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:01 PM |
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Depressed
After spending all of friday at work listening to the sound of straight 6 TR6's and TR7's "flying" past and all of today
spotting them around town (triumph doo at the 3 counties), started me thinking are we really moving forward.
With me sat in my euro box with 14 scilencers and 4 cats to please the hippies. And a tr6 with non of that sat burbling away with simple engineering
so that men could own tool boxes and be fixed at the side of the road. Same with a morgan we have at work which was built back when fuel was 60p per
liter and emisions were set up by ear and visual test out back, and not too much worry about usetting people with its straight through pipes and tuned
v8 behind the head lights.
I just cant help but think yes the technology has moved forward but IMO everything else has moved backward, half the cars on the road look the same
now interchangeable parts etc an in my short motoring life most of them drive the same. Where as u go back 30- 40years and you can feel so much more
different handling for every car, characteristics, looks, sounds.
Now ive finished ill go back to bed 
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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mackei23b
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:05 PM |
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still lookling at you avatar, at least some things haven't changed
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omega0684
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:06 PM |
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when we're all depressed we just look at your avatar! 
[Edited on 19/7/08 by omega0684]
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clairetoo
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
when we're all depressed we just look at your avatar!
[Edited on 19/7/08 by omega0684]
I dont 
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:13 PM |
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Got the Viento back on the road today. There is nothing like driving a car that consists of an engine and yourself to make you fell good.( esp the
sound of a v8 )
Also todays the first day of my six week holliday.
+ a bottle of wine.
+ when I return to work I will only be doing 4 days a week
Paul
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focijohn
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
There is nothing like driving a car that consists of an engine and yourself to make you fell good.( esp the sound of a v8 )
ill second that one
[Edited on 19/7/08 by focijohn]
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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coozer
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:30 PM |
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I'm with ya on this one, many moons ago I rode around on a Kawasaki Z1000 with a 4 into nowt exhaust. 4 headers into 6 inches of 2" pipe,
no baffles nowt! I wouldn't dare now, the euro noise brigade would have me locked up!
Modern euro boxes are generally all the same sharing components, engines and even floor pans.
I laugh at stupid woman drivers in Zafiras unable to drive through a gap big enough for a bus even though the thing sits on an Astra floor pan and is
dimensionally identical!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Benzine
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:36 PM |
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Amazing how technology has advanced so much but the weight of a modern car is insane
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focijohn
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
I laugh at stupid woman drivers in Zafiras unable to drive through a gap big enough for a bus even though the thing sits on an Astra floor pan and is
dimensionally identical!
Don't even get me started on the standard of driving in Britain!!!
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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zetec7
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:51 PM |
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I agree with all of the above - the only problem with the old motors was the metallurgy. They wore out - cams wore out, cranks wore out, cylinders
wore out. The life of an engine back in the '50s and '60 was generally considered to be about 100,000 miles. Nowadays, the metallurgy
has improved to the point where many motors easily last 300,000 or more. What is failing most frequently now, IMHO (and a lot of mechanics agree with
me), is the electronics. They're sophisticated, but the connectors, wires, rubber casings etc. all have a lifespan, and when they start to go,
you've got lots of troubles.
So, I decided to eschew the fancy electronics with my Zetec...a simple, 2D GM box, working in "failsafe" mode, is all there is., plus
Weber 45DCOE carbs (once they're set, you can pretty much forget 'em), and you're away.
The best of both worlds...simple mechanics I can easily fix myself, with metallurgy to last, certainly beyond my lifetime.
http://www.freewebs.com/zetec7/
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focijohn
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 09:59 PM |
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Wasn't that the point, my point of view being a 20yr old mechanic (apprentice) old skool or new skool old all the way. You actually have to FIX
things instead of FIT things. You cant just plug a cable in and tap on the mouse..... multimeter and a screw driver!!!
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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Chippy
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 10:13 PM |
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I purchased my first car in 1955, had a gold seal engine, (recon to you young herberts), and the car had only 52000 miles on the clock, so I think
your 100K is a bit out. Clutches, that's another thing, lucky to get 30K from a clutch back then, (or was that just me ). Ray
quote:
The life of an engine back in the '50s and '60 was generally considered to be about 100,000 miles.
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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tegwin
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 10:55 PM |
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John....this is exactly why I will have a TR6 Based TVR sat in my garage within the month
I promise il let you play too!
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 20/7/08 at 01:11 AM |
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The reason is that 80% of the motoring population aren't in the slightest bit interested in opening the bonnet of their car let alone having the
inclination or ability to perform even the most basic service......tbh I don't remember taking your car to a garage to get it fixed was ever
particularly cheaper than it is now it's just now you pay for the technology (operated by monkeys paid monkeys wages) and thing get replaced
rather than fixed rather than paying for someone who actually knows what they are doing.
Depends if you actually experienced having to drive 'simple' cars on a day to day basis I guess but, removing the rose tinted goggles,
they could be a huge pain in the arse as they used to go wrong much more often than todays boring, comfortable, reliable, MP3 equiped vehicles
[Edited on 20/7/08 by D Beddows]
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RK
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| posted on 20/7/08 at 01:51 AM |
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I think a lot of the time that my personal choice of a Nissan engine for the SR18 was overkill: turbo and can upgrade things to get almost 500 HP if I
were that way inclined. I don't really understand the engine at all and would have liked a TR engine or Pinto, but I would not have looked
forward to fixing leaks and "tweaking" carbs etc etc. I just hated all that when I had an AH Sprite once, but it would be nice to be able
to actually buy a car without all the crap you need nowadays.
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