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MK Indy R GSXR build day 1!
blowden86 - 8/9/12 at 10:56 AM

Here's my first post on here, I picked up my MK Indy R kit yesterday with a K3 GSXR 1000 engine. Let the build commence!

I'll probably just spend today familiarising myself with everything but first question:

What is peoples preference for lubing the polybushes? Silicone grease, or alternatively I've heard Castrol red rubber can be good?

Cheers!

Ben


Hellfire - 8/9/12 at 11:04 AM

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new purchase and choice of engine Whichever grease you end up using, make sure to apply plenty of it. Fit the PU bushes to the wishbones and pack the space between the bushes with grease before inserting the crush tube.

ETA - We used copperslip on ours

Phil

[Edited on 8-9-12 by Hellfire]


blowden86 - 8/9/12 at 11:10 AM

Thanks Phil! What did you use, and have you had any suspension squeaking or does it work well? My preference is to get all things right from the start.

Why haven't you got your build diary online any more may I ask? If you like I could host it for you, if anyone is interested mine is here: http://www.suma-uk.com/indy/


Hellfire - 8/9/12 at 11:15 AM

We used copperslip grease when building our MK in 2004. The suspension doesn't squeak and we've never needed to regrease them, so I guess it's worked ok......

We lost our previous website hosting

Phil


blowden86 - 8/9/12 at 11:29 AM

Great cheers Phil. I'd be more than happy to host it for you, if you have all the files you could email to me as an archived folder (email is ben@benlowden.co.uk) or if you want to put on a disc and post U2U me for my address.

I'll then host it for you and give you the link (probably http:/www.suma-uk.com/hellfire-indy/ or something like that) ! These build diaries are very helpful for me, so it would be mutually beneficial.


whitestu - 8/9/12 at 11:49 AM

quote:

What is peoples preference for lubing the polybushes? Silicone grease, or alternatively I've heard Castrol red rubber can be good?



I used silicone grease and they squeaked lots so I would try copperslip or moly grease.

Stu


RichardK - 8/9/12 at 12:49 PM

I used red rubber grease, I would have thought copper slip was a bit too abrasive but I guess if if works on yours then must be ok?

Cheers

Rich


blowden86 - 8/9/12 at 01:06 PM

Cheers for the feedback all, I think I'll give the red rubber a go seeming as that's what it's designed for!


Hellfire - 8/9/12 at 06:40 PM

The bushes are made of PU, not rubber......

Phil


-matt - 10/9/12 at 09:19 AM

Hang on, are you meant to grease the bushes?

Is that why my car squeeches with suspension travel?

I did not realise that, and assumed the squeeching would go after use.


blowden86 - 10/9/12 at 09:26 AM

Hi Matt,

Yes I'm afraid so! The main options are silicon grease or copper slip, although I'm going for red rubber grease as this is intended for plastic/rubber/composite materials I believe.

Not that I know what I'm doing and seasoned builders may tell you different, but I'm following Lee's advise from his blog: http://l5w-mk-indy-zetec.blogspot.co.uk/

If you see this Lee it would be helpful to know how you're getting on with the red rubber!!

Cheers,

Ben


-matt - 10/9/12 at 10:00 AM

Thanks, it also looks like i made the crush tubes flush with the bushes, so the bushes are pushed up against the bracket.

Looks like I'm going to have a day of fixing this issue.


I thought something was wrong!


phelpsa - 10/9/12 at 10:21 AM

I've recently discovered PTFE spray for bushes. Mine is branded 'Volvo' and was supplied with my dads old V70 for fixing squeaky hinges I believe. It's amazing, spray it in the general direction of the bush and any squeaks disappear! Don't know how long it lasts (my car doesnt see much mileage) but worth a try before dismantling suspension.


phelpsa - 10/9/12 at 10:24 AM

http://www2.dupont.com/Consumer_Lubricants/en_US/products/silicone.html

This sort of thing.


procomp - 11/9/12 at 12:57 PM

Hi

Whilst sorting the bushing problems out it's worth taking the time effort to see if you have 12mm Bolts with 1/2" bushing. On the ones i have had in the workshop this results in over 1Deg of camber change in the bushing free play. Easier to sort out now than when build is finished or near complete.

Cheers Matt


Minicooper - 11/9/12 at 01:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

Whilst sorting the bushing problems out it's worth taking the time effort to see if you have 12mm Bolts with 1/2" bushing. On the ones i have had in the workshop this results in over 1Deg of camber change in the bushing free play. Easier to sort out now than when build is finished or near complete.

Cheers Matt


Wouldn't 1/2" bolts, as they have don't have the 8.8 markings of a metric bolt be an IVA failure, I thought that is why manufacturers use them and they are replaced once IVA is gained. 1/2" bolts are readily available

Cheers
David


BigMac - 11/9/12 at 01:24 PM

Welcome Ben! Good luck with the build, take your time and don't worry about asking questions on here, LCB are a very knowledgeable bunch who are more than happy to help. Most important thing, have fun!

I used Copper slip on mine, a nice liberal coating especially prior to the crush tube going in.


procomp - 11/9/12 at 01:53 PM

Hi

No the problem is that the chassis brackets have 12mm holes and the suspension bushes / crush tubes have 1/2" bore. If the OP is renewing his crush tubes for some the correct length he can also take care of the bore problem also at the same time.

Cheers Matt


Sloan85 - 3/10/12 at 08:01 PM

How are you getting on with the build? I too am going to be building a GSXR Indy, collecting my kit on the 13th. Been keeping an eye on your website for updates........ Have you made much progress?

James


blowden86 - 25/10/12 at 08:32 PM

Hi James,

Sorry for the slow reply, I didn't get an email to say there have been replies to this thread in a while! I'm getting no where fast to be honest, I'm still waiting for some parts from MK before I can progress. All the wishbones/shocks are fitted, but I haven't got around to putting it on the blog yet. I wanted to wait until I'd achieved a bit more. Next job is brake/fuel lines but I need to cut out the reverse gear section of the floor panel first. However I'm waiting on my reverse gear!

Fingers crossed it'll arrive tomorrow and I can re-commence the build.

Good luck with yours, I'll try to get the blog updated soon if that helps you out.

Cheers,

Ben


blowden86 - 14/11/12 at 10:14 PM

I've just updated my build diary with the first few bits, I'll be doing more work this weekend and haven't taken the photos off my camera yet from last weekend either. So in about a week or so you'll have side panels, steering and brakes all up on the blog!

Here she is again for those interested/following: http://www.suma-uk.com/indy/