Hi all

Ok im in the middle of working on a custom wiring loom, that will see all the unwanted wiring stripped form the car.

I also intend to use a Push Starter Button so i can do away with the ignition barrel and steering lock.

This is the panel I have



Now with the ignition barral removed, obviously I need an ignition switch.


You see I'm not if i should just wire that switch ignition switch with the red flip-up cover into the Starter circuit
It has to be switched ON before pressing the starter button and then can be switched off after so the starter cannot be accidently started if the button his hit

And use one of the other switches as the Ignition On and Fuel Pump.



Or use that ignition switch with the red flip-up cover which has to be lifted to turn the ignition switch on.
However I'm worried about if the flip up flap managed to accidently flip down it will turn the ignition off. Not the best thing to happen when driving!!


Im just wondering how many of you have these red flip-up covers and if they ever managed to turn the switches off?

What type of custom setups to you lot run?

What are your thoughs/experiences.



Thanks

Jon

I'm runninr a key operated switch on the dash for the ignition switch. If you just use that panel then can't anybody just start your car up?

Wiring the push and the covered switch in series isn't a bad idea but probably not needed.

adrian

there is that issue but its not an everyday car left outside

plus there is an FIA cutoff switch that is removed from the car when its in the garage.

just want to know about these aircraft type flap things

they ever accidently knock themselves off?

i don't think it would pass IVA like that (unless you have some transponder immobiliser or something)

but they don't accidentally switch themselves off.
when you have the switch on, the cover rest on it, like in the photo, and you have to hit it fairly hard to switch it off

ye thats what im worried about the bump bit dont want the ignition switched off accidently!

The car is a Citroen AX - intended for track days/hill climbing/sprint etc

so would it need to pass an IVA?

You'll need 2 forms of security for IVA. Key switch counts as one, so coupled with an immobiliser you're OK. Not sure FIA style key will be recognised as one as all the keys are the same (some passed SVA with one and others didn't).

adrian

Being that the car has a V5 and been on the road for 15 years does it need a IVA?
(not sure what IVA is mind! - know that kit cars need to be SVA'd)

And the car never came with an immobilser on. its a basic french tin can with not CL/EW PAS etc etc

Ahh. Sorry, I assumed it was a kit build not a mod' on an existing registered car.

adrian

Its ok i should have really specified that it was on a registered car. 1st time i posted on a kit car forum

But back onto my original question,

it is ok to use that switch with the red flap as an ignition on switch
or shall i remove the red flap.

Has anyone had prolbems with these red flaps turning switches off?

sorry, i assumed it was to pass IVA too, put if its got a V5 and 15 years old, it;ll be fine.

never heard of one turning off itself either. fitted to many, many a race car, and take quite a thump to switch off

Those switches are designed for the job - the idea is that you reach under the red bit and lift the switch to turn the ignition off (obviously!) but you can hit the cover in an emergency to cut the power.

It takes a firm push to turn the switch off using the cover - it won't go off by itself (the cover weighs very little, and won't have the momentum to knock the switch off).

thanks all.

think ill go with that

just got to sort out the custom loom now!

are there any wiring diagrams etc on here?

havent search yet. just joined up