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Paul TigerB6 - 2/4/08 at 03:25 PM

Does it make any difference where in the circuit the resistor is placed (before or after the LED)??

ie, +12V - LED - Resistor - earth
or +12V - resistor - LED - earth

Simple one but cant find a definate answer

Cheers


Macbeast - 2/4/08 at 03:27 PM

Definitw answer - no


Mr Whippy - 2/4/08 at 03:28 PM

if there was a power surge the resister would blow and save the diode


Paul TigerB6 - 2/4/08 at 03:29 PM

Sorted!! Thanks


BenB - 2/4/08 at 03:36 PM

No difference.


02GF74 - 2/4/08 at 03:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
if there was a power surge the resister would blow and save the diode


I'm afraid I disagree. Have you looked at the die inside a LED and see how thin the tiny gold wire to it is? That will be the fuse should there be a power surge. When is does go, often the plastic cover gets blown off too

Interesting question though - I cannot recall ever seeing it wired other than:

12V --- resistor --- LED --- 0 V

yet at this moment cannot think why the other option is not used; maybe it is and I have never really noticed/considered it.


jlparsons - 2/4/08 at 05:22 PM

I have to say I think the resistor would not save the LED, it will limit the current that will flow at 12V to a level that's safe for the LED but if you suddenly had a voltage surge from an electrical fault it would allow a proportionally higher current, potentially enough to blow the LED. You'd need to know the safe amps limit of the led and fuse it to that level, i'm not sure if there's any point though...?


jlparsons - 2/4/08 at 05:22 PM

I do of course reserve the right to be completely and utterly wrong.


Paul TigerB6 - 2/4/08 at 05:26 PM

Well i have wired in the LEDs the other way around to the "norm" now as I had already done the circuit board with the resistors on "the other way" and wasnt about to change it unless i had to. If an LED does blow then a new one is 19p and a few mins soldering so not enough to worry about.

Martin who i am building the car for is an electrician so i think he'll be fine.


martinq357 - 2/4/08 at 07:38 PM

Just found this:

http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/led.htm

Hope it helps.

Martin.


Mr Whippy - 2/4/08 at 08:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by martinq357
Just found this:

http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/led.htm

Hope it helps.

Martin.


good find. Anyone know why blue LEDs are so dazzling even at a distance with a big halo around them? I suspect it is the short wavelength light refracting inside the moisture on the surface of the eye.


hillbillyracer - 2/4/08 at 10:13 PM

Or you could just get 12v LEDs from the likes of Maplin. 30-40 pence & no resistor to worry about!


Paul TigerB6 - 2/4/08 at 10:15 PM

Know what you mean Mr Whippy. My old car got LED's fitted (by me) when i fitted a carbon dash and the main beam warning was blinding!! I changed the resistor so many times to turn the brightness down but still dazzled me.


trikerneil - 3/4/08 at 05:38 AM

I have found this LED ARRAY WIZARD useful in the past.

Neil


Paul TigerB6 - 3/4/08 at 06:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by trikerneil
I have found this LED ARRAY WIZARD useful in the past.

Neil



Now that is really useful. Draws out the wiring diagram too and puts the resistor after the LED which is how I have done it myself - grounding via the MegaJolt.

cheers


Macbeast - 3/4/08 at 07:59 AM

LED array wizard is brilliant !!


02GF74 - 3/4/08 at 09:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy

Hope it helps.
good find. Anyone know why blue LEDs are so dazzling even at a distance with a big halo around them? I suspect it is the short wavelength light refracting inside the moisture on the surface of the eye.


there is loads out there on the web about wiring LEDs and computing current limiting resistor value - as yet all have the resistor between + V and LED.

to answer the Mr W question, it has something to do with the eye sensitivty - is is not very good with blue - there are much less blue cones (about 100x?) than for the red/green plus the cornea absorbs light at higher frequency i.e. blue end of spectrum - dunno the exact details though.

you also shold see a "halo" with red LEDs - something do with the wavelength being in a narrow band.