Is it just me or is our moronic government about to try and force upon us yet another dictatorial law that will open us up to millions of pounds worth
of wasteful cases in the court??
Discrimination????
Seems to me the government are trying to head closer and closer to a dictatorial state!! How many court cases could this lead to by rejected job
applicants just because they are female / other minority group??? Really cant believe we have to have laws of this sort to allow the government to try
and force in certain employees !!
Its just getting so stupid
See post further down btw
Some people still don't seem to realise that this government is still trying to take all choice and freedom away from us.
I am not a racist or a sexist or an ageist but I want to have the right to appoint whoever I want to appoint to work for me. It is not necessarily
qualifications which make the difference either - things like will this person get on with the rest of the staff do matter and I'm not going to
introduce someone to my work place who will bring disharmony even if they have more qualifications than everyone else put together.
I want the right to employ someone because I like them and not risk some woman/black/aisian or regular white guy sueing me because they had better
qualifications than the person who got the job
Makes my blood boil
Mr Angry getting his coat..............
only one answer to these 'laws'
employ the person who best fits your needs.
if someone doesn't like it, shut your business
down, sign on for a while (to get something back),
then emigrate like everyone else.
^^^^ Absolutely correct, how the person fits in and how that effects productivity is vital.
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Originally posted by mookaloid
Some people still don't seem to realise that this government is still trying to take all choice and freedom away from us.
I am not a racist or a sexist or an ageist but I want to have the right to appoint whoever I want to appoint to work for me. It is not necessarily qualifications which make the difference either - things like will this person get on with the rest of the staff do matter and I'm not going to introduce someone to my work place who will bring disharmony even if they have more qualifications than everyone else put together.
I want the right to employ someone because I like them and not risk some woman/black/aisian or regular white guy sueing me because they had better qualifications than the person who got the job
Makes my blood boil
Mr Angry getting his coat..............
I don't see what everyone's getting so worked up about?? This kind of thing has been going on for ages.
All they're saying is that a company "can" be effectively be discriminatory (only for certain people) and it not be illegal. They
don't have to (that would be true positive discrimination) but they can if they want to.... Stuff like that's happening already (and has
beenfor years)...
Where we live there's a company called "My Fare Lady" who are female taxis (so you can guess how good their driving is
). All the drivers are female, all the people who answer the phone are female. The whole shebang is female.....
Clearly that is discriminatory.
Okay, their reasoning is that "women prefer to be driven by female taxi drivers". Doesn't mean the whole thing has to be run by women.
Why not set up a taxi firm where 50% of the drivers are women.....
Let's face it- the law (if passed) just backs up what is already happening. If I go for a job (and I'm the best qualified person for it) but
it goes to a lesser qualified woman, if I try and scream "discrimination" how far do you think it'll get me? If companies want to
positively discriminate they can do. End of. Trying to make this into a law is pointless because the law would have no effect.
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Originally posted by BenB
I don't see what everyone's getting so worked up about?? This kind of thing has been going on for ages.
All they're saying is that a company "can" be effectively be discriminatory (only for certain people) and it not be illegal. They don't have to (that would be true positive discrimination) but they can if they want to.... Stuff like that's happening already (and has beenfor years)...
Where we live there's a company called "My Fare Lady" who are female taxis (so you can guess how good their driving is
). All the drivers are female, all the people who answer the phone are female. The whole shebang is female.....
Clearly that is discriminatory.
Okay, their reasoning is that "women prefer to be driven by female taxi drivers". Doesn't mean the whole thing has to be run by women. Why not set up a taxi firm where 50% of the drivers are women.....
Let's face it- the law (if passed) just backs up what is already happening. If I go for a job (and I'm the best qualified person for it) but it goes to a lesser qualified woman, if I try and scream "discrimination" how far do you think it'll get me? If companies want to positively discriminate they can do. End of. Trying to make this into a law is pointless because the law would have no effect.
From what radio 4 were saying this morning, white male people will not be able to sue under this law.
They call it an equality bill, yet it embedds discrimination into the law.
On the subject of discrimination, B&Q sell everything at a discount to the over 65s on Wednesday afternoon. Is this a clear case of
discrimination based on age? I would bring legal procedings myself, but being white and male, I'm not allowed to.
Let's all protest outside parliament.
Oh no, sorry, can't do that, it's against the law now!!!!!!
David
Well, you know what to do guys, come the next election ...........
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Originally posted by mookaloid
ARRGGG I've done it again - got to get off my soap box ..............
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
I am not a racist or a sexist or an ageist but I want to have the right to appoint whoever I want to appoint to work for me. It is not necessarily qualifications which make the difference either - things like will this person get on with the rest of the staff do matter and I'm not going to introduce someone to my work place who will bring disharmony even if they have more qualifications than everyone else put together.
I want the right to employ someone because I like them and not risk some woman/black/aisian or regular white guy sueing me because they had better qualifications than the person who got the job
If your a white able bodied male, then you have no rights over anyone else!!
And thats not discrimination!!!
[Edited on 26/6/08 by jamiepearson69]
I'm pushing for the next lot of anti discrimination laws that outlaw discrimination on grounds of lack of ability.
After all, it's not my fault I can't drive as well as Lewis Hamilton. If McLaren don't give me a contract I'll sue them. As an
employer it's their responsibility to install whatever driver aids I need to be competitive.
I think the government has a responsibility to rectify such injustice.
What do you think - should I email Harriet Harman?
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Originally posted by whitestu
I'm pushing for the next lot of anti discrimination laws that outlaw discrimination on grounds of lack of ability.
After all, it's not my fault I can't drive as well as Lewis Hamilton. If McLaren don't give me a contract I'll sue them. As an employer it's their responsibility to install whatever driver aids I need to be competitive.
I think the government has a responsibility to rectify such injustice.
What do you think - should I email Harriet Harman?
I can think of a few "rules" for the fight, but since Fozzie is a mod and I might need Claire's help in the future, I daren't
suggest any that immediately come to mind.....
[Edited on 26/6/08 by DIY Si]
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Originally posted by russbost
Well, you know what to do guys, come the next election ...........