• audi TT quatro 225bhp
either of those should be fun
Hi guys well iv been thinking all day on what engine to put in the chasiss, I was thinking a 4x4 Cosworth or Honda S2000 then I started thinking what
about what engines could fit so here's my list!
• scooby engine (it's a small ish engin and low!)
• audi TT quatro 225bhp
• VW Passat (there mounted long ways) mated with audi TT box
then I thought outside the box iv allways tried to been differant so......
A diesel kit car!(please don't hate mr I know wrong!)
• skoda vrs 150bhp
• 306 dturbo engine not sure what box would fit it!
What do you think? Have I lost the plot? Or are some of them possibile?
Kind regards
rich
I've thought about the DTurbo route as well. You can always get a 406 2.1 DTurbo engine as well - same block I believe! 1.9 can be tuned to
around 110hp without opening it up.
Should mate to an LDV gearbox as I believe they used peugeot engines..
how about this
http://westfield-world.com/Pix/fea/pr7.jpg
• scooby engine (it's a small ish engin and low!)
• audi TT quatro 225bhp
either of those should be fun
a £300 remap will give that vrs engine 180hp and 300+lbft of torque. plus you could optimise the map for drivablility in a kit car and try and avoid that torque and power spike
Iv got a 306 and it's tuned when done properly like mine you can see upto 140-150bhp mine it's 139.7bhp 290 lb and that's still on the
standard top mount intercooler, there is much differance in the 1.9 and 2.1!
Thanks for the link I'll have a look!
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Originally posted by JAMSTER
how about this
http://westfield-world.com/Pix/fea/pr7.jpg
i have a mate ho is selling his subaru wrx 2.0 turbo £1500 for the full car with MOT he has just got a new one and was offered £1500 as apart ex but
chose to keep the car in sted may be to do a kit car him self but has not got round to it
if your intrested U2U me and ill give you his number
Haha yes a lot of fun I don't like scoobys but you have got to admit the noise they is awesome,
but a TT on boost with as zorst n air filter sounds great to!
If I put any of these engines in the would remain standard due to them being quick already!
Would you really want a massive, heavy iron block diesel engine in a kit car? I have a 406 DT, its fine for hacking to work but its just about the
last engine I'd put in a lightweight sports car.
The only Diesel engine I would possibly consider is maybe one of the new breed of small capacity lightweight TDi's, my sister had a 1.4 TDI Polo
3 cylinder and that was a cracking little engine. VW even did a bluemotion mid-engine sports car concept with that engine.
On a petrol note what about a VW 2.0 16V ABF engine from a MK3 Golf 16V, the cars can be bought for peanuts and its a truly great engine.
I thought the problem with the scooby was its width
as for the VAG engines (audi / VW) ones you can use ford boxes (type 9) with a custom bellhousing
a while back in PPC mag they did a westfield with a VAG 1.9 TD - I think he used a toyta supra box with an adapter kit from the states (could work for
other VAG engines..)
come to think of it scootz might still have audi RS4 V8 for sale - I'm sure it would be fun if your budget would stretch to it 
linky
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Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
Would you really want a massive, heavy iron block diesel engine in a kit car? I have a 406 DT, its fine for hacking to work but its just about the last engine I'd put in a lightweight sports car.
The only Diesel engine I would possibly consider is maybe one of the new breed of small capacity lightweight TDi's, my sister had a 1.4 TDI Polo 3 cylinder and that was a cracking little engine. VW even did a bluemotion mid-engine sports car concept with that engine.
On a petrol note what about a VW 2.0 16V ABF engine from a MK3 Golf 16V, the cars can be bought for peanuts and its a truly great engine.
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Originally posted by mcerd1
I thought the problem with the scooby was its width
as for the VAG engines (audi / VW) ones you can use ford boxes (type 9) with a custom bellhousing
a while back in PPC mag they did a westfield with a VAG 1.9 TD - I think he used a toyta supra box with an adapter kit from the states (could work for other VAG engines..)
come to think of it scootz might still have audi RS4 V8 for sale - I'm sure it would be fun if your budget would stretch to it
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Originally posted by rich.h44
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
I thought the problem with the scooby was its width
as for the VAG engines (audi / VW) ones you can use ford boxes (type 9) with a custom bellhousing
a while back in PPC mag they did a westfield with a VAG 1.9 TD - I think he used a toyta supra box with an adapter kit from the states (could work for other VAG engines..)
come to think of it scootz might still have audi RS4 V8 for sale - I'm sure it would be fun if your budget would stretch to it
you have got me thinking now thanks for the info! I'm not sure about the scooby engine I'd like to look into it abit more
How about 2.2tdci from a ford galaxy, has 176bhp as standard i had a re-map on mine and got 201bhp and better mpg
Vag Engine, i have a S3 with the 210bhp 1.8 turbo, would be fun in a kitcar for sure and lots of tuning options for the future...
I'd say that the extra weight of a diesel up front is going to make a mess of the weight distribution and ruin the handling.
Stick with a petrol.
Scooby is generally too wide to fit without major chassis mod's I believe.
Duratec is the way to go 
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Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
On a petrol note what about a VW 2.0 16V ABF engine from a MK3 Golf 16V, the cars can be bought for peanuts and its a truly great engine.
), but it didn't take me long to work out that
I'd be saving myself a whole load of aggro and have more scope to get silly later on by using something else instead. quote:
Originally posted by martyn_16v
quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
On a petrol note what about a VW 2.0 16V ABF engine from a MK3 Golf 16V, the cars can be bought for peanuts and its a truly great engine.
As much as I do love them, they aren't all that compared with some other similar engines of the time, like the XE, 4AGE etc. If you're going to go to the trouble of getting a rwd gearbox onto a VAG engine you may as well go for the 1.8T, it has much more potential for sillyness. A zetec has similar potential for power to a VAG 16v, but will be a whole load easier and cheaper to get into a seven.
I had a succession of 16v KR/9A/6A Golf's prior to the Indy (hence the username), and was really set on using the 9A engine I had at the time (running nicely on GSXR throttles on Megasquirt way back when no one had even heard of it
[Edited on 12/1/11 by martyn_16v]
Scoobydoo engine wont fit in a seven, too wide and you wont get any bracking in the chassis.
I wouldnt go for a diesel, the gearing is all wrong for a sports car IMO. Performance daily drivers they are excellent, but really not for a sports
car.
Duratec is the way.... 
Just want to say a big thanks for all the input I'm going to do a lot of reading and reserch on all that has been sugested!
I might be able to get hold of a scooby engine that's blown up to try and see if and were it does and doesn't fit! Been looking at TT's
but there just out of my budget! So it could be a cossie lump!
Someone said about useing the type9 box with the vag engine, I'd like to use all the vag stuff and run it as 4wd if I could!
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Originally posted by adithorp
I'd say that the extra weight of a diesel up front is going to make a mess of the weight distribution and ruin the handling.
Don't ruin your car by putting a horrible heavy diesel lump in. You'll compromise the handling massively and low revs/torque just isn't
what a lightweight sports car is about. Not that it'll be light if you fit a diesel anyway..
Also, how does a type 9 cope with that kind of power? I'd be going T5 with that kind of torque seen as though every engine mentioned in the OP is
turbo'd
Make a decision and put something nice and easy or simple and affordable that will not need lots of extra fabrication and expensive bellhousing
modifications. I think you've lost the Locost plot looking at diesel engines and Subarus.
[Edited on 13/1/11 by Peteff]
bmw 328i about £450 for an engine and gearbox, an easy/cheap/reliable 220bhp. about 20kg less than a red top and the gearbox's are much lighter than the ford type too. Or 1k for a m3 engine, same weight as a redtop but with 300+bhp/ITB's etc as standard.
I'm not sure how you'd go about fitting a VAG 4x4 system into a se7en
I thought they had either a transverse layout or the engine a way out in front like this:
the only 4x4 se7ens I've seen used the sierra / cossie setup, and in the case of the dax rush (the only se7en kit I know with 4x4 as a factory
option) they use a longer front prop and modifed driveshafts to move the front diff all the way infront of the engine (its normally level with it)
besides the 4x4 setups add so much weight that its not worth it in most cases (unless your planning to go drag racing)
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Originally posted by Yazza54
Also, how does a type 9 cope with that kind of power? I'd be going T5 with that kind of torque seen as though every engine mentioned in the OP is turbo'd
(I managed to get hold of a s/h one ) quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
I don't agree with all of that, I had a 4AGE powered MR2 before the Golf and the Golf smashed it into the weeds in terms of performance.
Also you are talking about a 9A engine, I found both the KR's and ABF's I owned to be hugely superior to it
What about a rotary engine?
Dare I say it ........... Duratec V6 on ITBs
I think i'm going to go cossie lump BUT I want a yb and not a boa! The only thing stopping this is findin a yb and there expencive! But the boa is sooooo cheap iv seen one with a full loom for as little as £120! I'm just wondering why there so cheap?
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Originally posted by rich.h44
I think i'm going to go cossie lump BUT I want a yb and not a boa! The only thing stopping this is findin a yb and there expencive! But the boa is sooooo cheap iv seen one with a full loom for as little as £120! I'm just wondering why there so cheap?
If you want an easy life, do what everyone else has done hundreds of times before. Otherwise, you risk getting totally put off with frustration. I know this for absolute fact. If people say Zetec/Duratec/XE/4age etc. Just do it and quit thinking!!