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steve m

posted on 17/5/04 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
would over charging give a misfire

Hi
I still have a serious misfire, but only at these conditions
car been run for at least five miniutes
misfire only occours over 4000 rpm
if engine speed is reduced to less than 4000 rpm normal driving can be resumed within a couple of miniutes

items that have been changed with zero effects are
plugs
plug leads
dizzy cap and rotor arm
coil
lumention ignition
in fact every thing in the ignition circuit except for the dizzy pick up to lumention box

I now have two fuel pumps that are switchable to both or either, and the float levels on both carbs have been checked several times

also on one failure at about 80 mph today I cut the engine and once stopped !! opened the carbs and both were full of fuel, so I do not suspect a fuel problem

my reasoning for the overcharging is that on one test today with a lcd multimeter the battery was getting 17.7 volts, for about 1 second

any ideas ?????????

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CairB

posted on 17/5/04 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Steve,

Probably a complete red herring but I once had a similarish problem with my sierra. It turned out to be a small piece of debris that was periodically blocking the main jet. It only blocked it at higher fuel flow rates.

A cracked dizzy cap also caused similar grief and that was with a new one.

Good luck,

Colin

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Hellfire

posted on 17/5/04 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
Daft answer cos I know very little - but is your inlet/exhaust tight?

Sounds like your regulator is faulty if your alternator is charging high. The faster the engine goes the more it will allow through - I'd sort that pretty quickly - even though it's right at the very upper limit the battery will take (unless it's a lorry battery! )

I'd say the misfire/overcharging is a coincedence.






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gjn200

posted on 17/5/04 at 09:46 PM Reply With Quote
Dead petrol? Seems to loose its 'bang' very quick these days.





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theconrodkid

posted on 17/5/04 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
steve,you are only sposed to have about 14.5 volts,excesive voltage could overheat the coil and cause missfire,cooling down will return it to normal,try replacing the reg,hold yr hand on the coil,see how hot it gets

[Edited on 17/5/04 by theconrodkid]





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steve m

posted on 20/5/04 at 07:22 AM Reply With Quote
I have now changed my alternater and all of the misfire problems have gone, so just in case any one else has this problem, dont go down the obvious route of changing everything in the ignition and fuel system !!!

This could also be part of my problem of my mot fail as well,

I now have a much nicer car to drive



steve

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britishtrident

posted on 20/5/04 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
Seen it a couple of times a misfire caused by the alternator
First time was due to arcing at the the 3 blade connector causing massive voltage spikes which badly upset a Lucas AB17 ignition amplifier on a Rover 820Sli. --- This sounds very like your problem good idea to make 100% sure these connections are clean secure

Second time was due to low voaltage output causing problems (I think) for the fuel injectors on a Rover Mems MPi system on a 214.

[Edited on 20/5/04 by britishtrident]

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