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thelynxeffect

posted on 17/8/18 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
Volts or Amps

Hi guys, this is my first post so I should apologise for it being a question, I need to monitor the state of my battery and the charge it is receiving, should I be considering a volt meter (voltage would increase when engine is running) or an Amp meter so I can see the charge current? Either way it needs to be a chromed smiths gauge to match the dash.



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rusty nuts

posted on 17/8/18 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome. As regards ammeter vs voltmeter an amp meter will show the rate of charge or discharge but will not show if the battery voltage is low whereas a voltmeter will show charging voltage when running and static battery voltage when not running. At least that's the way I see it .Personally I would go for a voltmeter.
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gremlin1234

posted on 17/8/18 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
as above,
ammeter will show if its charging,
it will not show the current taken when starting - this is because it would be way off the scale. (has to be wired in the battery feed, but after the starter takeoff )

for an overall battery charge level indicator, volts is best.
but make sure its on the ignition live side of the circuits. (directly across the battery will give a small continuous load)

oh, and WELCOME

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thelynxeffect

posted on 17/8/18 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys, that’s just the sort of answers I was looking for!
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907

posted on 17/8/18 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
Were not amp meters predominately fitted to dynamos and voltmeters fitted to alternators ?






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thelynxeffect

posted on 17/8/18 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
Does the voltmeter feed need to be fused?
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gremlin1234

posted on 17/8/18 at 08:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thelynxeffect
Does the voltmeter feed need to be fused?
it should be. of course it will work without, but fuses are there for protection. it doesn't matter if the volt meter stops, (and indirectly indicates a fault), much preferred to melting the wiring loom...

edit:
in british standard / lucas colours, this would be any green wire.
https://www.mgexp.com/article/lucas-colours.html

[Edited on 17/8/18 by gremlin1234]

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Mr Whippy

posted on 17/8/18 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
No need for a fuse. No reason you can't fit both, voltmeter will tell you how charged or discharged your battery is, ammeter will tell you how much current is charging it. Both are useful.
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ReMan

posted on 17/8/18 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
No need for a fuse. No reason you can't fit both, voltmeter will tell you how charged or discharged your battery is, ammeter will tell you how much current is charging it. Both are useful.


Aggreeed. Except for the fuse bit. they should be protected somewhere
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Angel Acevedo

posted on 17/8/18 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome to the site...
Should you need more reasons to install voltmeter, Amp meters usually require larger gage cable as more current is involved whereas Voltmeters require smaller gage cable.
Also agree to install fuse in circuit.
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ReMan

posted on 17/8/18 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome.
Just BTTT, Why MUST you monitor them? Do you suspect a problem?





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thelynxeffect

posted on 17/8/18 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
Valid question, I have space for a 2” gauge and voltmeter seemed a logical option, either that or I squeeze in a rev counter
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gremlin1234

posted on 17/8/18 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thelynxeffect
Valid question, I have space for a 2” gauge and voltmeter seemed a logical option, either that or I squeeze in a rev counter
clock, (you know that thing that tells the time!)

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Mash

posted on 17/8/18 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
.....and nice motor too Matey

Welcome

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adithorp

posted on 18/8/18 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thelynxeffect
Valid question, I have space for a 2” gauge and voltmeter seemed a logical option, either that or I squeeze in a rev counter


Well I'd go for a rev counter if you don't have one. Far more use than volts or amps but if it has to be one of those, I'd go volts.

ps. welcome to LCB. Nice looking motor. Clamshell wings are a rarity these days.

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snapper

posted on 19/8/18 at 05:42 AM Reply With Quote
I wouldn’t want 40+ Amps under the dash unless the wiring was fully sealed and properly insulated and clipped, even then....





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thelynxeffect

posted on 19/8/18 at 06:13 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks again, I'm not exactly short on space so I think I'll fit a voltmeter and probably a Rev counter also, just a case of waiting for the right ones on the bay now.

Thanks for all you advise, I'll post the results once fitted.


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Mr Whippy

posted on 20/8/18 at 06:06 AM Reply With Quote
A pair of rubber mats wouldn't go a miss, soft alloy floors wear quite quickly and are as slippy as hell if damp, wet or covered in sand

Nice car though

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David Jenkins

posted on 20/8/18 at 08:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I wouldn’t want 40+ Amps under the dash unless the wiring was fully sealed and properly insulated and clipped, even then....


I have had something niggling at the back of my mind - I'm sure ammeters were always regarded as a fire risk as the entire current drawn from the battery (apart from starting) has to go through the meter. There's a very low value resistor (fractions of an ohm) inside that has to go in the supply line so that a voltmeter across it can display the amps - I know that sounds daft, but a high-current ammeter measures the voltage across a resistor to show the current going through that meter (Ohm's law, and all that). If you put high current through a resistor you get heat...

I am quite sure that the modern recommendation is to fit a voltmeter.

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thelynxeffect

posted on 20/8/18 at 05:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
A pair of rubber mats wouldn't go a miss, soft alloy floors wear quite quickly and are as slippy as hell if damp, wet or covered in sand

Nice car though


Floor is steel plate, fully welded but yes, carpet is required!

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