scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:04 PM |
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Using Bike Clocks for Non-Bike Applications
Been looking at all sorts of digi-dashes for my car (Race-Technology, Evodash, AIM, Stack, etc.), but they are all bloody expensive!
Struck me that many modern sportsbike dashes have very similar features, look just as good.... and are a damn sight cheaper.
So... how hard would it be to do all the plumbing to make one work properly. I'm using an Audi engine with an Omex 710 ECU.
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blakep82
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:08 PM |
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how about this?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=13584
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imp paul
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:13 PM |
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you mite like this approx £198
 
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scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:23 PM |
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Cheers guys - will look into them both.
Any ideas on my original Q about using bike clocks? Only reason I'm leaning towards them is that I know that Honda / Yamaha ones are built to
very high standards and on the second hand market give plenty of bangs for your bucks!
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blakep82
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:32 PM |
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should be possible, but i'm just thinking rev counter's and stuff, different rev range etc. might involve a lot of recalibration?
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scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:47 PM |
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Also wondering how many bike clocks have ECU related 'codes' in them... i.e. take it away from the machine it was born with and it
doesn't work. I really fancy using a set of Honda VTR SP1 CLOCKS
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Howlor
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:48 PM |
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I had a look at using the elise clocks as they are Stack, look excellent and are reasonable shape to install. Normally go for about £120.
Steve
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imp paul
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:49 PM |
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hmm there very nice cool as ice 
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blue2cv
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:52 PM |
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I got some clocks from a CBR1000RR, looks like a Stack too
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russbost
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 06:56 PM |
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How about an Acewell 3250, only a touch dearer than the Vapor, but has fuel guage + loads of other features like gear indicator, shift light etc
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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dan__wright
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 07:19 PM |
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from memory your using a v8? (or possibly a 6pot, not 100%?)
your biggest problem with bike clocks will be revs due to different number of cylinders but they are no different from any aftermarket clocks apart
from the fact they are not adjustable.
power, ground, speed, revs, temp, warning light inputs then a data channel used to send fault codes from ecu to clocks but they will work without it
(at least most should)
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 07:42 PM |
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Cheers guys.
Dan - the RS4 engine revs pretty high (officially 8250, but reputedly will be happy doing 500 more), so that's why I thought about a V-twin bike
clock (I think the SP1 revs to 11k).
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dan__wright
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 07:48 PM |
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but the problem is if the clocks are for a 4 pot and you use a v8 the revs will read double so at 6K clocks read 12K.
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 08:47 PM |
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I don't understand (not unusual for me!).
I thought the rpm was taken from the crankshaft via the trigger-wheel. Surely with one crankshaft / trigger wheel combo, then there can only be one
RPM interpretation?
I'm sure you're probably right, but everyday is a school-day, so could do with expansion on your theory.
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dan__wright
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 08:56 PM |
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taken from coil 
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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scootz
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 08:58 PM |
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Cheers!
So what does a trigger wheel do?
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russbost
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| posted on 16/9/08 at 09:34 PM |
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Sends trigger signal for TDC to the ECU in very basic terms.
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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scootz
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| posted on 17/9/08 at 07:01 AM |
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See... it's true - everyday's a school day!
I thought TDC was just all about cam positions!
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02GF74
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| posted on 17/9/08 at 12:29 PM |
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short answer it yes, it can be done but it may not be easy.
I would have thought that the rpm is not coming from the coils but is a signal from ecu that corresponds to coil firing.
I say that since don't modern bikes have 4 coils, and even not so modern ones used 2 with wasted spark and are unlikey to have the 2 wires
connected directly together for the rpm signal.
Basically you would need to know what signalthe rpm counter is using then adjust it according to where you take you rpm signal from.
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scootz
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| posted on 17/9/08 at 01:53 PM |
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Cheers guys... sounds a bit complicated (and likely to cost more in the long term than just forking out for an 'out-the-box'
package'.
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 17/9/08 at 07:24 PM |
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Have bikes not discovered canbus yet? If they have, it may not be as simple (relatively) as just replicating all of the various inputs.
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02GF74
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| posted on 19/9/08 at 07:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Cheers guys... sounds a bit complicated (and likely to cost more in the long term than just forking out for an 'out-the-box'
package'.
don't give up so easily!!
anything can eb done given enough time and money.
it depends on how much the clocks cost and how much would be needed to interface them to your engine. most after market systems are pushing £ 200 or
more; i am sure you cna get bike clocks off ebay for 1/10 th that price.
the lamps should be easy peasy.
the speedo should be sorted with a speedo healer and sensor - healers are on ebay for £ 13 - search forum for the one i refer to.
rpm - just need to know the signal the clock require and then supply it , not insurmountable.
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scootz
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| posted on 19/9/08 at 08:48 AM |
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Shiver me timbers... you've re-ignited my desire to land ashore and get me hands on some bike sextants.
(Sorry - it is officially 'speak like a pirate Friday).
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scootz
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| posted on 21/9/08 at 08:41 PM |
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Search over... bought a set of clocks from a Honda S2000 car.
HERE!
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