bodger
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 12:45 PM |
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Stop switch
I've just finished rewiring my R1 loom to use the Sierra ignition switch for power & starter.
I've overridden (shorted) the stop switch & everything seems to be working OK. 
But I'm wondering why bikes have a stop switch anyway. Why not just kill the engine by turning off the ignition.
There must be a good reason for it (risk of coil damage ?) & if so do people still keep a functional stop switch.
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twybrow
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 12:52 PM |
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Good question, I want to know this too! I was going to wire my switch into a starting panel (rather than the main ignition feed), but am not sure if
that is wise... I do hope someone can shed some light on this. The manual for my bike says to only use it in an emergency!?
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worX
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 01:11 PM |
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I ride a bike (have done for a while!) and am sorry to say that I don't the "real" reason why there is a stop switch apart from to
guess at some sort of emergency safety in speed button?
I personally use it when getting off my bike instead of the ignition so that my alarm doesn't arm itself and therefore I can move the bike
around and put it back in the garage without a barrage of chirps and beeps etc!
Steve
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 01:14 PM |
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quote:
Why not just kill the engine by turning off the ignition.
When the throttle jams you probably dont want to take a hand off the bars  
- Jim
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blakep82
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 01:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jimgiblett
quote:
Why not just kill the engine by turning off the ignition.
When the throttle jams you probably dont want to take a hand off the bars
- Jim
^what i was thinking
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ko_racer
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 02:06 PM |
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It's for when you want to shoot flames out of your exhaust and frighten people walking down the road/driving too close.
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twybrow
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 02:35 PM |
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So if I wired the bike ignition barrel wiring to the sierra barrel, and then had the kill switch as the 'Ignition on' switch on a starter
panel does that sound like a good idea or not?
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TimC
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 03:07 PM |
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.. or take the steering lock off your column.
I'm wiring mine exactly as you'd wire a car. The reason i've done this is to keep everything as simple as possible.
Each to their own & horses for courses etc though,
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bodger
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 03:16 PM |
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Thanks guys. The steering lock theory makes a lot of sense. Trouble is in a blind panic you will instinctively go for what you know (which for a car
driver will be the ignition switch) so I'll probably take the steering lock out as well as the stop switch. Though if I can use it to make
flames then it might have to stay
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flak monkey
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 04:39 PM |
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Took an angle grinder to my steering lock, and fitted an immobiliser along with an ignition switch on the dash. Problem solved, and cost very little
indeed (about £20)
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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awinter
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 04:46 PM |
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That is assuming that the ignition switch from the car is used. I have the bike ignition switch as it has built in security. If my throttle sticks
open I just turn the ignition off and can still steer. No need for a stop switch. Most steering locks from doner cars we would use can be overcome by
a thief.
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TGR-ECOSSE
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 05:05 PM |
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Excuse me if i am not getting this. Is there a problem with throttles sticking open on bec?
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BenB
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 06:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Took an angle grinder to my steering lock, and fitted an immobiliser along with an ignition switch on the dash. Problem solved, and cost very little
indeed (about £20)
Yup... Who needs a steering lock anyway? Just helps the crims pop the lock out to hotwire your car!!! Ground of that puppy too. But doesn't it
take a little while!!!! Lots of metal to munch through...
Then again, it was one of the first things I did with an angle grinder- I think I'd be a bit more vigarous and quicker nowadays...
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andyharding
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 06:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
Why well lets just say for example that your driving along the road and the throttle jams wide open your first instinct is to turn off the ignition...
BAD BAD move as if you have used the original donor ignition the next thing that will happen is you might inadvertently turn the ignition switch fully
off in your haste to save the engine, what happens next ??? the bloody steering lock engages and you end up in the ditch/hitting a car/killing a
child with No steering.
[Edited on 17/5/07 by CaLviNx]
Complete b0ll0cks.
The steering lock doesn't engage until the key is removed from the lock for exactly this reason. Even on cars as old as the Sierra.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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Macbeast
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:11 PM |
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Well it did on my BMW. Was coming in to park at the kerb and being flash turned off the ignition before coming to rest. Result - steering locked.
Red faced ? Moi ? Oui actually. Luckily there wasn't a child with no steering around
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ed_crouch
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:33 PM |
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Flak, where DO you get your avatars from?!?!?!?!
I-iii-iii-iii-ts ME!
Hurrah.
www.wings-and-wheels.net
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