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pwl

posted on 18/6/08 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
ah hem..... god kip gay?

dont you mean - good, keep, guy


Ups, sorry. I am from Denmark, so haven’t written much English sinse I left school 21 years ago.

PWL

[Edited on 18/6/08 by pwl]

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Agriv8

posted on 18/6/08 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
your english is a dam sight better than my dutch !!!!

Keep up the good work

and keep us posted.

regards

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Krismc

posted on 20/6/08 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pwl
quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
ah hem..... god kip gay?

dont you mean - good, keep, guy


Ups, sorry. I am from Denmark, so haven’t written much English sinse I left school 21 years ago.

PWL

[Edited on 18/6/08 by pwl]


ill let you off then, ha ha





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clutch_kick

posted on 21/6/08 at 01:34 PM Reply With Quote
I'm jealous ... very very jealous

that engine installation is car-porn on 4 wheels. Keep up the fantastic work.






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pwl

posted on 4/7/08 at 06:49 AM Reply With Quote
Almost there, had it for a 4 wheel measurement yesterday, I have a couple a pictures of when I had it on the trailer.

I am working on the lighting and other cosmetic things now, I hope to get it finished in the next 10 days.

Hopefully I will get it to the dyno next week, to get the engine management adjusted, I will get back to you with a dyno plot.






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neilj37

posted on 4/7/08 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
thats some exhaust that you have on there

Very nice looking car, i do like them in white

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Gergely

posted on 4/7/08 at 04:03 PM Reply With Quote
Wow! Great looking car!
Tell us about that exhaust please! I am really curious!

Very quick build as well!
Tell us how it drives, too!
Gergely

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pwl

posted on 4/7/08 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
The exhaust is a twin loop muffler, I have chosen this design because of the very high flow combined with low noise. I don’t think that the muffler that most people on here use will flow enough for a 2,0 litre engine revving to 9000 rpm, the S2000 engine loves a free flowing exhaust, the ideal setup would have bin a 3” strait through resonator, but that would have bin way to loud, most tracks around here have a 95 db noise limit.

The exhaust I have on is a cheap 75$ Ebay muffler, but quality is acceptable.
I know that some will love the design and some will hate the design, I am in the first category.

The exhaust manifold (Header) is the stock unit, that I have modified to fit, I am a little bit nervous that this is going to rob a lot of power, because the S2000 engine is very sensitive to the design of the exhaust manifold






PWL

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Gergely

posted on 7/7/08 at 07:15 AM Reply With Quote
Very nice! I like it, too! Tell us how it drives and let us know where we can see videos!
Gergely

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pwl

posted on 12/8/08 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
Here is another update.

I have finished the build a couple of weeks ago, and I am now trying to get rid of all the small errors I have made, I have had some trouble with the oil pressure on my drysump, overheating ECU and liquid gasket in the fuel line, these things have set me back a couple of weeks.
It seems that I have sorted these things out now, and I have today adjusted the engine management on the Dyno. The result is not what I have hoped, it only made around 220 hp, I am pretty sure it is because of the modification I have made to the exhaust manifold, I have added 15 cm of pipe to the primaries, in order to get it to fit.

I will tray to get one of the good Header builders to make me a custom exhaust manifold this winter.

Here is a video of one of the dyno runs, the sound is not to god because of the noise from the fan, but you get a good idea of the sound and power of the engine: Dyno run






This Monday I will be at my first trackday at Knutstorp in Sweden, I will let you know how it drives.

PWL

[Edited on 12/8/08 by pwl]

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rb968

posted on 12/8/08 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
Nice

Looks great.......how tall are you though that rollbar looks a hell of a height!

Congrats

Rich

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pwl

posted on 12/8/08 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
I am 182 cm high, the rollbar is not that high in real life.

PWL

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Gergely

posted on 13/8/08 at 07:42 AM Reply With Quote
That looks great! Very nice job!
Make sure you put the MNR logo on the nose before the trackday so people can check in the pits what passed them so quickly on the track earlier...

Can you make some trackday videos, too?
Have fun and let us how it drives!

Gergely

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bassett

posted on 13/8/08 at 08:42 AM Reply With Quote
You've finished already! puts my build to shame lol. Great work the white and black looks stunning.





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pwl

posted on 13/8/08 at 07:38 PM Reply With Quote
I do not have a bullet cam, so I can not make in car video, maybe I can get someone to film a drive by. Ill invests in a bullet cam later when I have saved some money up again.

MNR logo fitted to nose


I have also fitted a Sparco steering wheel last night, it is 30 cm in diameter, 6 cm smaller that the S2000, much better size.


Here is the dyno plot, you can see that the power falls off about 500 rpm to soon.


The reason that I have been able to finish the build so fast is because that I have had 9 weeks of work this summer, where I have bin building full time.

Thank you for the kind words everyone.

PWL

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pwl

posted on 18/8/08 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
Had a great time at the track today. Despite some further problems with the fuel line clogging up (I am a big idiot using way to much liquid gaskets sealing the fuel level sender) I did get a lot of laps in the car. I must say that I am pleasantly surprised, it did only take me about 20 laps to get a good feel for the car, it is a easy car to learn and not a lot of over steer as I have feared. The car is very fast, but not scary fast. It handles the power very well, it dos not feel like it has too much power. It is a lot faster than a Porsche Cayman and a little slower than a Porsche GT3. It is really easy to control a power slide thru the slow corners in 2. gear and because of the torque the engine has, you can be fast out of the corners with out being in a low gear.

Only thing a bit disappointing was the brakes, they did not feel good. I have the Raceleda R16 4 piston callipers and circa 245x9mm non vented rotors. I weighed the car the other day and I was very surprised that it fully tanked weighed 690KG, this is more than 100KG heavier than I expected, with me in the car the total weight is close to 780KG. With this weight I don’t think the small 245mm rotors are up for the job, you have to use VERY hard pedal pressure to get a decent stopping power, so much that it is hard to control the braking and it is impossible to lock up the front wheels (with Proxis R888) witch I feel you should be able to do. I am thinking of upgrading the brakes to some vented 260 or 285 mm Wilwood brakes, combined with some low temperature pads, what do you think? I am thinking of this kit: Wilwood

A couple of pictures (sorry no video)




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Gergely

posted on 19/8/08 at 10:08 AM Reply With Quote
Hey! Great update! I am glad you liked the car! Can't wait to get ours on the track...
As for the brakes, my first call would be Marc. Check it with him before investing in another brake setup. The Racelada are supposed to be pretty strong, should be no problems locking the wheels, so there might be something else causing what you experienced as weak brakes. I would say try to fiddle with your current setup before you spend money on another setup...
Not many pictures with your car on track! Do you have any?
Sort the brakes and next time you will be a little faster than the GT3...
Good job!!!
Gergely

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marc n

posted on 19/8/08 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
sounds like either, master cylinders incorrect way round or balance bar not adjusted correctly, or moving correctly


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pwl

posted on 19/8/08 at 08:36 PM Reply With Quote
Marc, I have the front to the 0.625 master cylinder and the rear to the 0.7 master cylinder like it says in the build manual. Balance bar is circa in the middle, the rear was not locking up under hard breaking.
The balance bar moves freely in the brake pedal.

There is no air in the system, the pedal is firm.

Would the extra weight from a bigger front brake setup, hurt the handling notably?

Don’t the extra 200kg over a light bike engine car mean anything for the brakes?
With a car as fast as this is, I would like to be confident of the brakes, even on a track with a short strait, the car reaches more than 200 km/h.

PWL

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stuart_g

posted on 19/8/08 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Here is a guide to Balance bar adjusting so you can check you have this bit right.
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marc n

posted on 20/8/08 at 06:59 AM Reply With Quote
only other thing is is it possible bias bar is wrong way round ???

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pwl

posted on 20/8/08 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
I have the long end of the bias bar towards the accelerator pedal!?

Maybe it just because I drive an Astra VXR as my road car and it has extremely good brakes, so it might be hard getting used to the feel of brakes without a brake booster and lots of grip.

PWL

[Edited on 20/8/08 by pwl]

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marc n

posted on 20/8/08 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
you should be able to lock the brakes definately, so somthing isnt quite right somewhere , have you tried the bias bar in a different position ???


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finlay

posted on 25/8/08 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
very Nice build, looks awsome
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