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Author: Subject: Wiring of Savage Switches & Lights for night & day driving
nitram38

posted on 7/11/06 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
Put a resistor in the sidelight feed to the switch/led.
On side lights the led will be dim. During the day, no led on unless you operate the switch or put on your side lights (as per your tintop).
When the switch is operated, you will get full brightness to warn you that it is on.
This will be bright at night when operated and dimmer when not.


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[Edited on 7/11/2006 by nitram38]

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RazMan

posted on 7/11/06 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
Nope, you lost me somewhere - here is a diagram of the bank of switches using a feed from the lights to give background lighting. If you activate one switch and apply 12v to one led (to give warning brightness), surely all of them will light up. You would therefore need two leds for each switch to achieve dual brightness (like K33ts' idea)


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nitram38

posted on 7/11/06 at 05:34 PM Reply With Quote
Isn't that what I said?
Except, I have included a simple switching circuit provided by the spare contacts on the switch to swap from dim to bright operation, without the added use of relays as per earlier posts.
My way provides two levels of brightness which does not require extra leds, diodes or relays.
Plus no back feed as switch swaps over for each individual led, so no cross over of feeds.

All you need is the correct resistor for each led!

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RazMan

posted on 7/11/06 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
Still think you will need a couple of diodes to stop backfeeding the other switches though - like Rusty's diagram.



That way each switch will only brighten its own led when activated (as a warning lamp) and not all of them.

I think we may be at cross purposes here - two levels of brightness is easy peasy but adding a third level for 'warning' (with lights on or off) is the tricky bit.

[Edited on 7-11-06 by RazMan]





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tks

posted on 7/11/06 at 06:31 PM Reply With Quote
STOP THE DICK DANCE!

One uses 1 Resistor the other uses per led one resistor wy?

else if switch isn´t operated the resistor value won´t be the right one!!

and for every light wich isn´t operated the brightness (standby mode) will be increase...

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nitram38

posted on 7/11/06 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
That is correct.
During the day, you do not have lights on so led will be off.
If you operate the switch, you will get full brightness.
At night with side lights on, the leds will be dim because of the resistor.
If you operate the switch, then the led will brighten, letting you know that the switch is on.
It will be brighter than all the rest.
If you want too, you can put a bi-metal flasher in too so that it blinks aswell !

[Edited on 7/11/2006 by nitram38]

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RazMan

posted on 7/11/06 at 06:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
If you want too, you can put a bi-metal flasher in too so that it blinks aswell !



Now there's a good idea - brake warning light that flashes





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nitram38

posted on 7/11/06 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
After all that, what size resistor required?!
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tks

posted on 8/11/06 at 06:43 AM Reply With Quote
resistor chareing

you cant! you won´t be statisfied with the result!!

wy?

there is no static/constant value of leds wich are permanent in dim modus.

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nitram38

posted on 8/11/06 at 08:05 AM Reply With Quote
The resistors on my setup would not be shared. Each Led would have it's own one.
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nitram38

posted on 8/11/06 at 08:16 AM Reply With Quote
As to the flashing option (oooh er missis!), you could replace the led CLICK
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RazMan

posted on 8/11/06 at 08:40 AM Reply With Quote
Have you seen the size of the tiny led in a Savage switch? It looks like a really small dash-type bulb - I doubt that any 'normal' led would fit

Thinking about it, a bi-metal flasher wouldn't see enough current to flash would it, so it would have to be done with a electronic gizmo of some sort.





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nitram38

posted on 8/11/06 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
Maybe these will fit? Clicky

Just realised, that they would flash on the side light setting as well

[Edited on 8/11/2006 by nitram38]

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rdodger

posted on 10/1/12 at 03:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
Put a resistor in the sidelight feed to the switch/led.
On side lights the led will be dim. During the day, no led on unless you operate the switch or put on your side lights (as per your tintop).
When the switch is operated, you will get full brightness to warn you that it is on.
This will be bright at night when operated and dimmer when not.


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[Edited on 7/11/2006 by nitram38]


Blast form the past with this one!

I think I will use Savage switches on my car. I will however be using a boost switch to swop maps on my ECU.

If I am using N/O and N/C to switch the brightness of the led can I also use them to switch between the maps?

Also has anyone got the resistance value for roughly 50% dimming?

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