big_wasa
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| posted on 18/6/19 at 05:14 PM |
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I want to hear these bad boys sing, shiny shiny. Just a shame there no good for a 7
[Edited on 18/6/19 by big_wasa]
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Partofthechaos
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| posted on 20/6/19 at 04:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
St200 inlet. Throttle inlet is just over 65mm. Smaller port is 30mm and bigger 31.5.
 
Jagin1
 
Jagin2
 
Jagin3
Thank you, definitely different then. I wonder if I can do anything with this one or if I've wasted £40.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 20/6/19 at 05:06 PM |
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If nothing else it will get you up and running until you find one.
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Partofthechaos
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| posted on 20/6/19 at 05:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
If nothing else it will get you up and running until you find one.
Yes, it will allow me to wait till there is one at a good price. It still may be a good idea to reduce the power, stop me stuffing it into the first
tree I try to go round.  Or maybe not. 
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dazq
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| posted on 20/6/19 at 07:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
I would be very interested in a copy of your msq file please, your rolling road results are really encouraging.
You have a U2U
Hi , have u2u my email Addy. Thanks
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 05:21 PM |
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Right, I got me an ST24 inlet manifold to be getting on with, an ST220 throttle body and some 15mm aluminium plate to make some spacers out of. I
offered up the Jag fuel rail but it's too tall - I'd need to make the spacer about 20mm. What fuel rails are you guys using? The ST220 and
ST200 ones both look a bit lower profile.
Cheers,
Ben
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 05:30 PM |
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Standard AJ30 fuel rail on mine,with all the standard crap cut off the ends and AN6 fittings welded on.
ST220 injectors are at a different angle to AJ30,hence why a ST220 lower inlet wont fit.
What makes you say AJ30 rail wont fit?
[Edited on 22/6/19 by CosKev3]
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sdh2903
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 06:49 PM |
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There must be different versions of the aj30 fuel rail as mine is plastic?
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 08:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
There must be different versions of the aj30 fuel rail as mine is plastic?
Aye, mine is also plastic! Although that would now explain why it doesn't fit
Looks like a new fuel rail is on the cards!
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 09:19 PM |
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Oh nutsack my freshly arrived 15mm ally will be useless then
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 09:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
Oh nutsack my freshly arrived 15mm ally will be useless then
Aye, looks like. Or you could swap to a different fuel rail, which is what I'm planning on doing as cutting out even 15mm thickness is a PITA!
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 10:45 PM |
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What year engines did the plastic ones come off?
Both engines I've got had metal ones,strange
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CosKev3
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 10:53 PM |
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Oh yeah just looked on ebay,the plastic fuel rail lower inlet is quite different to the one with a metal fuel rail.
I think you will need to get one with a metal rail to work with the ST200 upper.
On the top of the metal rail I've cut the pipe inlet off flat with the rail,then welded AN fittings on the ends.
On the rear of the rail under the TB I've had to extend the rail with some steel pipe and angle it down so the rail exits under the TB.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F201946977532
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40inches
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| posted on 22/6/19 at 11:15 PM |
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Mine is the plastic lower, but I used the 2litre fuel rail because it's dead ended.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 07:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Mine is the plastic lower, but I used the 2litre fuel rail because it's dead ended.
Mines got plastic lower manifold,but not plastic fuel rail
Also the gasket set up/seals are different looking at pics,mine with the steel fuel rail uses oval O rings to seal to head and also the upper,the
plastic fuel rail set up uses gaskets by the looks of it.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 08:57 AM |
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This is what I have.
 
Jagplain
Seems to be the early engines had this set up then 01 onwards have the steel rail. This uses gaskets rather than the oval o rings.
Dave was yours the same as this? And you used the 2.0 v6 one? A straight swap I take it with injector fitment/angles etc?
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 09:17 AM |
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In fact looking on the bigger screen on the laptop looks like its going to have to be a full lower manifold change. Ffs. Hope the injectors are all
the same as I've had these overhauled.
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40inches
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 09:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
In fact looking on the bigger screen on the laptop looks like its going to have to be a full lower manifold change. Ffs. Hope the injectors are all
the same as I've had these overhauled.
This is the rail I used eBay Item
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 10:24 AM |
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Cheers Dave. I dont know if its camera angles or if the lower manifold with the steel rail looks thinner? than the one with the plastic rail aswell.
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40inches
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 11:29 AM |
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The steel rail is thinner and much lower profile.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 11:30 AM |
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Have just offered up the inlet (with fuel rail removed) and I'm still probably a 25mm spacer short.
 
Jaginlet5
Having seen the pics of kevs build up his lower inlet looks a bit thicker. Have measured up the lower inlet and I have a depth of around 47mm. If
anyone has the type of lower manifold with the metal fuel rail could you by any chance measure its thickness to compare?
 
Jaginlet6
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 11:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
The steel rail is thinner and much lower profile.
I was meaning the lower manifold itself Dave. Sorry it wasnt very clear.
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40inches
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 12:03 PM |
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I have just measured my spacer and it is 30mm, that gives me 30mm clearance to the highest part of the steel fuel rail
from the manifold. So a 15mm spacer would give 15mm clearance.
I will see if I can measure the lower inlet. my engine is a 2001.
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40inches
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 12:15 PM |
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As near as I can tell the lower manifold is 50mm high.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 23/6/19 at 12:31 PM |
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Thanks Dave. And apologies for taking over your dyno thread
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