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dhutch

posted on 17/10/09 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
Waterproof loom plugs.

Ive had my loom apart at the back of the car and am wondering about changing the plugs.
- Currently there's a plug for each of the two rear clusters off the loom (inc rev/fog light) and then insulated spades for the fuel pump and numberplate light.

The spades arnt super awesome, however the big multi plugs to the clusters are totally internally rogered. 18 years of road spray have taken its toll and they want renewing, the previous owners found the same and to get it through the mot bridged a few of the wires around the plug with crimp connectors and earth one cluster locally to the chassis. (i knew this when buying the car)

Next problem is what use use as CBS and vehiclewiringproducts premierwiring etc dont seam to stock anything suitable (nor do maplins or farnel at a quick canter) so i wondering if anyone had any thoughts on what they've used.

Otherwise i have found these on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-Way-Automotive-AMP-Superseal-waterproof-connector-kit_W0QQitemZ320430832785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item4a9 b2a7c91
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-Way-Electrical-Waterproof-Connector-OTHERS-AVAILABLE_W0QQitemZ180364039043


[Edited on 17/10/2009 by dhutch]

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owelly

posted on 17/10/09 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
I pack the connector blocks with Vaseline before assembling. never had any wet problems!





http://www.ppcmag.co.uk

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rgrs

posted on 17/10/09 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
The supaseal connectors are very good, i didn't bother just greased up cheaper multiway connectors.
However if you have a few to do try farnells

linky

but watch the minimum order quantities.

Roger

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dhutch

posted on 17/10/09 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rgrs
The supaseal connectors are very good, i didn't bother just greased up cheaper multiway connectors.
However if you have a few to do try farnells

linky

but watch the minimum order quantities.

Roger

Ok, looks like the same deal as the ones on ebay, although i couldnt find them when i looked on farnell.

You certainly could just used normal connectors greased, but theres a certain thrill to doing a nicer job than the person before when your the second one doing it i find!

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turbodisplay

posted on 17/10/09 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
Locost way, go to a scrap yard. Ford cars seem to have good multi connectors. About 15 ways are common under the bonnet.
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rgrs

posted on 17/10/09 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
Yes they are the same connectors but if you buy from farnells then each 'set' for the six way would work out to £2.44+vat
However you have to order 5 sockets and 5 plugs in one size.

also worth a look on some of the other sites such as premier wiring pole volt etc.
Roger

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thunderace

posted on 17/10/09 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
here you go

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/

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dhutch

posted on 17/10/09 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thunderace
here you go

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/
Ahh crikey, there all coming home to roost! I did even look on aes's site but didnt find them till now.

Certainly looks like the superseal's are the ones to use, and aes have larger ones to as and when i solve the same problem up front and sort out the headlights with some decent wiring.

Daniel

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Chris_

posted on 17/10/09 at 10:53 PM Reply With Quote
Hiya,

A good site for finding details for what will suit your application, unfortunatly they dont sell direct. www.durite.co.uk

For a proper connection on these AMP connectors you should really use the proper ratchet crimps. If you have standard ampliversal ratchet crimps you can buy new jaws that will crimp the uninsulated terminals.
It is possible to do them with small pliers, just takes a little longer.
However you crimp them, be carefull to make sure you only crimp the copper lugs and the insulation lugs. There are a couple of 'fins' slightly forward of the copper lugs that engage in the housing, so if you bend these then the wire will not stay in the plug.

Cheers
Chris

[Edited on 17/10/09 by Chris_]

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dhutch

posted on 18/10/09 at 07:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris_
For a proper connection on these AMP connectors you should really use the proper ratchet crimps. If you have standard ampliversal ratchet crimps you can buy new jaws that will crimp the uninsulated terminals.

Is 'ampliversal' ment to read 'universal'?

Ive thought for a while i might get a proper crimp tool rather than the pressed out sheet crimp plier type things ive always made do with in the past (without any failures, i might add) they do insulated and non insulated although i very rairly use the non-insulated ones.

Does you have an particular recommendations for what i should look for in a ratchet crimper? Can you get ones that do both without jaw changes?


Daniel

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