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Author: Subject: Has anyone swapped from live axle to IRS
tony.g

posted on 2/3/11 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
Has anyone swapped from live axle to IRS

I am struggling to get my desired diff ratio in a live axle.
Has anyone done the swap to a Sierra back end.
What sortof job is it?
Thanks
Tony

[Edited on 2/3/11 by tony.g]

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meany

posted on 2/3/11 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
one idea may be for you to go a DE DION conversion.
possibly easier.

http://gtslocost.locostsites.co.uk/documents/pdf_files/RortyDeDionAxleAssembly.pdf

But if you definately want to go the IRS route, then i would personaly use the HAYNES ROADSTER as guide, most of the parts, if not all, are readily available.

[Edited on 2/3/11 by meany]

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Antnicuk

posted on 2/3/11 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
what car are you talking about? i am considering it





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tony.g

posted on 2/3/11 at 11:12 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies.
The De Dion looks interesting.

It's a Stuart Taylor Locoblade.

Tony

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owelly

posted on 2/3/11 at 11:20 PM Reply With Quote
I'm swappin the Atlas rear end (four linked trailing arms and panhard rod) for the De-dion with a Watts linkage. I'm hoping to make a subframe that will pick up on the trailing arm points on the chassis but my car isn't normal!
This is as far as I've got so far!!



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snapper

posted on 3/3/11 at 06:43 AM Reply With Quote
GavinC did this conversion at the build stage using DeDion, the main difference is the Sierra axle is longer widening the rear track.
The trailing links brackets are therefore further inboard on the DeDion if using a book chassis compared with the wider chassis used with an IRS setup.





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Richard Quinn

posted on 3/3/11 at 07:52 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
GavinC did this conversion at the build stage using DeDion, the main difference is the Sierra axle is longer widening the rear track.
The trailing links brackets are therefore further inboard on the DeDion if using a book chassis compared with the wider chassis used with an IRS setup.

The IRS version of the Aries uses shortened drive shafts to maintain rear track. I can't see why a shorter DeDion couldn't be done using shorter driveshafts

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MK9R

posted on 3/3/11 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meany
one idea may be for you to go a DE DION conversion.
possibly easier.

http://gtslocost.locostsites.co.uk/documents/pdf_files/RortyDeDionAxleAssembly.pdf

But if you definately want to go the IRS route, then i would personaly use the HAYNES ROADSTER as guide, most of the parts, if not all, are readily available.

[Edited on 2/3/11 by meany]


Is this a design to replace the escort axel, leaving all pick ups and arms untouched? I have live axel fury and wondering is this could give me anything??





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gavin174

posted on 3/3/11 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
I decided to chance my chassis from live axle to de-deon.

I originally fitted an escort width de-deon with standard front wishbones

Was struggling to find someone to shorten the driveshafts so then had another de-deon made

This was sierra width, but kept escort width at the front end.

I the decided to change the front end for sierra width.

All this before the car was IVA'd.





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tony.g

posted on 3/3/11 at 10:53 PM Reply With Quote
I would like a De dion axle but i am not much of a welder.
Is it possible to buy one already made?

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beaver34

posted on 4/3/11 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
will they take more power than a escort english?
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scootz

posted on 4/3/11 at 05:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
will they take more power than a escort english?


What's the weak point in the Escort axle? Half-shafts?





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meany

posted on 5/3/11 at 11:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by meany
one idea may be for you to go a DE DION conversion.
possibly easier.

http://gtslocost.locostsites.co.uk/documents/pdf_files/RortyDeDionAxleAssembly.pdf

But if you definately want to go the IRS route, then i would personaly use the HAYNES ROADSTER as guide, most of the parts, if not all, are readily available.

[Edited on 2/3/11 by meany]


Is this a design to replace the escort axel, leaving all pick ups and arms untouched? I have live axel fury and wondering is this could give me anything??


i assume its a rorty design for an alternative to whatever the Ron Champion Locost uses...other than that..no idea.

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