steve8274
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 09:10 AM |
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wiring help
hi all
finally finished my wiring! yay!!!
time for the big switch on and.....nothing Booo!!
well when i say nothing, if i press the hazard switch, it illuminates and stays on. hazards dont flash. light goes out if i press switch again.
also, when the engine is running, if i press the hazard switch, the engine stalls. not sure if related but think it is.
i am using stalks from j plate sierra and using the wiring diagram below which other people seemed to have used.
can anyone shed any light to what may be causing this, and better still how to rectify. this is last big job on car and is really holding me up.
any ideas welcomed
thanks in advance
steve
 
stalk wiring
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scudderfish
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 09:53 AM |
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Do any of the other circuits work?
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 09:55 AM |
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Might be worth taking all the fuses out and trying each circuit in turn to at least see if anything is working properly. Also check all your earths
are good, they can give some really weird faults 
Edit: It sounds like the only issue is your hazards? If so, then double check your wiring from the column, sounds related.
[Edited on 7/9/11 by Daddylonglegs]
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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AndyGT
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 09:56 AM |
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Have you got a good earth? If the loom is from another motor, was it tested before you removed and installed it in your car?
Quite often, electric builds on new builds are bad connections/earth/etc...
Good luck...
Andy
PS For me, I'd be looking at the earth supply as everything is not working rather than a few problems.
nothing is impossible
everything is possible
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wilkingj
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 10:00 AM |
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Is it a dizzy or an ECU running the engine?
Check if the supply voltage stays on the ECU or the LT side of the coil whan you press the hazard button. This might tell you why the engine stalls.
Check whether its just a lack of volts, or possible a short to earth that drops the voltage to zero or near zero. However a short to earth would
usually make something get hot or even burn wiring.
I am thinking your power switching might be wrong, ie the hazards are removing the power from the ecu / coil when you hit the hazard button.
The problem you have to sort is whether you have it wired correctly in the first place.
ie you have wired the car up, and may have got a wire on the wrong tag etc. Its a different faulting technique to trying to sort out something that
was working before, and now doesnt. ie a component or earthing failure causing the fault.
With a new kit car, and newly done wiring, you want to check things carefully, and ensure its wired correctly. (and that MAY not be how you have it
wired at the moment.
It will take time, and some logical thought.
DO NOT POKE AND HOPE!! This is the sort of fault finding that will get you nowhere fast. Believe me, I used to fault find on Analogue Strowger
Telephone Exchanges, and the approach to faulting a newly installed exchange that does not work, is different to one that has worked for years then
something failed. I hope you get my drift on this.
Check a wire really goes to where you think it should, ie disconnect both ends and check for continuity. The you know you are right.
Is the supply toi the hazards there? from what I remember, Hazards are powered from a non switched supply, as they have to work with the ignition off
as well as on.
Hope that gives you a pointer or two and something to think about in the way you approach the problem.
Take it steady, check it bit by bit, electrical faults are sometimes not very easy to solve.
Oh... and Check ALL the earths are connected to the chassis, and to bare metal. ie scrape the paint / powder coating off first. I then cover the area
and terminal in grease to stop it rusting and giving other faults later. Bad earths give rise to strange faults, and are easy to solve. Its always a
good starting point.
Cheers
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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RK
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 11:31 AM |
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EARTHS.
I am sorry I can't help any more, but I have the exact same problems myself. Sadly, you are making me feel better. I hope I am doing the same
for you.
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Peteff
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 12:00 PM |
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Check you connected the brown/black 56 together between the two stalks, it gave me similar problems till I found it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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steve8274
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 12:02 PM |
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thanks for the prompt replies.
i have checked earths and all seem to be connected. i have put rivnuts into chassis and bolted earths to them
the flying earth lead(pin 31) has been connected to earth lead on battery and one of the two brown/black leads which goes to other stalk (pin 56) has
also been connected to earth. one was connected to other stalk and other was just loose.
is this correct?
checked continuity for each wire and all seems fine.
no circuits seems to work and running megajolt ignition
RK hope we sort out problem soon. at least i know its not just me.
thanks
steve
[Edited on 7/9/11 by steve8274]
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scudderfish
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| posted on 7/9/11 at 12:57 PM |
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If nothing is working, disconnect them all and just concentrate on getting something simple like dipped headlights working. Add circuits one at a
time, and test them all at every stage.
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steve8274
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| posted on 9/9/11 at 08:38 PM |
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quick update.
spent couple of hours on wiring tonight.
got the side lights, brake lights and reverse to work.
however, i seem to have a short on front indicators. both the positive and negative connectors seem to be earthed???? checked by using multimeter and
touching terminals and chassis. rears are fine.
going to have to undone all conduit and see if i can find any obvious faults on wire(fingers crossed) otherwise i`m not too sure how to find it.
anyone any ideas?
thanks
steve
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 10/9/11 at 11:43 AM |
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Check the wiring diagram you have used is the correct one for the switches you have by checking the part number of the switches. There is at least 2
ways of wiring the switches IIRC . Switch wiring has been covered several times so it might be worth doing a search? Good luck
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