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scutter

posted on 26/9/05 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
Buzzer Wiring

Ok folks,

After an enjoyable few days of driving post SVA, I've got to fit a warning Buzzer into the indicator circuit as it's getting embarassing.

Would anyone be able to tell me a stockist of said item and what's the best way to wire them in?

Many thanks Dan.

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gary gsx

posted on 26/9/05 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
How about a buzzer that you have wired up in to tow bars cant be that hard to wire up or maybe a low air buzzer of a 12v lorry Ford Cargo or a like
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RazMan

posted on 26/9/05 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
Maplins do a 12V piezo jobbie - only a couple of quid too.





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Raz

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omega 24 v6

posted on 26/9/05 at 08:36 PM Reply With Quote
I don't think they are that heavy a load so you could just tap into the flasher unit feed to the stalk switch (depending on how its wired). If you find it's to high a load then wire it through a relay.
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David Jenkins

posted on 26/9/05 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
I fitted a Maplin's buzzer into the indicator circuit of my car, for just the same reason.

A short while later I worked out how to set the indicator cancel cam correctly - and then disconnected the buzzer because it was very embarrassing when driving "sensibly" in a built-up area (e.g. driving into my road at 9pm - BEEP - BEEP - BEEP - BEEP ). Also fitting a Bright6 light unit meant that I could clearly see the indicator warn lights, even in bright weather, making the beep less important.

So, fit a buzzer if you wish, but put an off switch in the circuit (hide it somewhere behind the dash). Otherwise you'll be unwiring it again...

cheers,
David






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chris_smith

posted on 26/9/05 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
used to fit towbars for a living extremely easy to fit a towbar buzzer cost couple of quid
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scutter

posted on 26/9/05 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
Bugger, believe that the small plastic cam is still sat in a box in the workshop.

I'll see if I can fish it out and fit it tomorrow, from what i can gather it goes inline with the indicator lever correct?

Many Thanks to everyone. Dan.

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RazMan

posted on 26/9/05 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
You could even wire it to be enabled only with the lights switched off - during night time driving the warning light should be easily visible.





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Raz

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Hellfire

posted on 26/9/05 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
We've used a Piezo one... not the 99p buzzer jobby as it's loud but not noticable.

I've not worked out how to wire a single unit into the circuit to get it to work from both sides as it has to be in series in the circuit and the power would be too much for the little mite. So, I wired two in one on either side on the negative side of the side flasher. That way it doesn't need to cope with so much power.

It works very well and when you play the hazards you get the tones in stereo!






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rayward

posted on 26/9/05 at 11:18 PM Reply With Quote
hellfire,

you could do it with a single buzzer and 2 diodes .

ray

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David Jenkins

posted on 27/9/05 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scutter
Bugger, believe that the small plastic cam is still sat in a box in the workshop.

I'll see if I can fish it out and fit it tomorrow, from what i can gather it goes inline with the indicator lever correct?



Yep - If you look inside the gubbins when the wheel is off, you should see a little white nylon peg that sits in line with the indicator lever. Put the lump on the cam right under this. You may have to realign the wheel and steering to get it all back in line afterwards (annoying - but at least it will be right from then on).

cheers,
David

P.S. When travelling at speed I couldn't hear the Maplin buzzer, and it was a loud one! That was the other reason for taking it off...






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Hellfire

posted on 27/9/05 at 08:43 AM Reply With Quote
From what I had read about you could wire the buzzer in using two diodes and one buzzer. However, this would need to be done near to the switch (where the direction takes place) as it needs to be in series; is not the combined power (50W+) too much for the circuitry to take? The wires leading too and from the buzzer are at most 1mm^2 not to mention the piezo resonator being quite fragile.

For this reason I placed them both on the side repeater - negative side as this uses less power than the total power and the buzzer could/can cope with this. The one's we have aren't the buzzer (electric) type as they sound loud but the sound disappears at speed. We used the more expensive (£2) piezo one the sound is clean and piercing.

If you indicate and you cant hear it I'd say that junction you're approaching you would never make it anyway!






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David Jenkins

posted on 27/9/05 at 09:34 AM Reply With Quote
When I say "buzzer" I really mean "beeper" - it's a piezo-type, and is REALLY annoying when you're sitting at an in-town junction waiting to move off.

When I'm getting a move on, the wind roar drowns the sound of the beeper almost completely. As I said initially, it's much better to set the cancel up so it works properly, backed up by dash lights that really can be seen clearly.

David






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rayward

posted on 27/9/05 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
apologies for the "paint" drawing but, like this...




if you wanted it not to beep when your lights are on, just put a normally closed relay contact in the Gnd side of the buzzer,so when the lights are turned, the relay energises and disconnects the gnd, you could even do it with 2 different buzzers, 1 with lights on and a different one with lights off.

[Edited on 27/9/05 by rayward]

[Edited on 27/9/05 by rayward]

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DarrenW

posted on 27/9/05 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
ive used the Maplins piezo buzzers before. Very good. If you find them too loud try sticking a piece of gaffer tape (or 2) over the end to dull it down/tune it a bit. I guess same could be done with resistor but this may upset the flasher.






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