oliwb
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 03:12 PM |
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Brake Pipes
OK got this really sick feeling:
I've gone and cable tied my rad hosing to my brake pipes along a chassis rail (only 2 feet worth of) the brake lines are secured with P-clips,
my wiring loom to the engine bay also runs along this and is cable tied except around the chassis aswell....was put in before my hosing! Do you think
this will be OK for SVA? or will I have to drill out all the rivets and re-do it??? its nopt really noticeable especially from above because of the
carbs but would be I guess from below.....Cheers Oli.
Oh also does carpet count as padded??? Gonna sheet over the underside of my dash with plywood and stick some carpet over it will that satisfy radius
edges as being padded though??? Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 03:25 PM |
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At a guess...
No, and No, unfortunately.
I believe that they like to see the brake pipes routed freely from anything else (to avoid risk of chafing) and properly supported at regular
intervals, not too far apart. Supports should be proper brake pipe supports, or at least rubber-coated P-clips.
They are strict on the dash radius - 19mm radius minimum if it's hard, 5mm if it's properly padded. "Proper padding"
something soft enough to cushion, but firm enough so you can't feel what's underneath when you press on it. Carpet won't do it!
Think about putting some split rubber pipe along the lower edge (it may fall off later! ) - but remember to make it look like it's a permanent
feature.
David
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oliwb
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:01 PM |
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hmmm...Ok dilema! Think I'll try to do something clever with rubber pipe and also sheet in the underside of the dash aswell....let it fall off
after SVA perhaps....can't make my mind up what to do with the rad hoses....so much work to change and they look neat....may just leave them and
see what happens at SVA, the brake lines are well supported with p-clips every 2" I think so wouldn't be unsafe....I'll have a
fiddle....some one told me a while ago that you might fail SVA with jubilee clips in favour of manufacturers ones is this true??? and also are there
rules about running fuel pipe near to wiring loom....again is just this one hot spot of activity for 2 feet in the engine bay! Its all well supported
and is cotton braided hose as opposed to copper at this place so as to stop any chance of rubbing or conducting etc......All open to interpretation as
usual! Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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DarrenW
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:08 PM |
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Id say no to clipping hoses to brake pipes. SVA like to see them all seperate where possible. Ive ran all mine seperately and as youd expect nothing
said at SVA.
I did secure hoses to chassis in one point but added some protection (old hose split along length to make it more robust). This means the hose is in
contact with rubber rather than steel.
I used jubilee clips for coolant and fuel hoses when joining to carb, rad, water pump etc - no probs at SVA.
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oliwb
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:51 PM |
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Oh and sorry for posting in the wrong place! Clicked on electrics thinking about my fuel pipe running near wiring loom question but then didn't
ask that.....if there was some way of moving it I would.....but there isn't that I could see as I checked a second ago......Cheers for the help
though....Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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shortie
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 05:20 PM |
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If it's only 2 feet I would just add one P clip to hold the hose and a couple for the wiring.
As long as they are sperated and secured seperately then they should be fine.
Carpet could be fine, depends on the examiner and how he feels on the day really but to be sure you could add the split hose.
Rich.
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oliwb
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 06:50 PM |
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Anyone know the stand point on using cable ties to secure bits around chassis tubes??? Figure its probably better than rivets in a way is it
doesn't affect the strength of the tubing at all and is permanent......well as permanent as P-clips I would argue.....Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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shortie
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 07:51 PM |
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I agree with you but unfortunately the man at SVA probably won't, they like to see permenant fixings.
I did however use cable ties to secure my wiring on the engine cradle where I couldn't get the drill in and he didn't even question it but
I think had I used them everywhere then he would not have accepted it.
I did ask him about it and his answer was that they like to see fixings similar to that used on production cars and hence the p-clips and not cable
ties.
HTH,
Rich.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 08:22 PM |
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Loads of cable ties on production cars --- the Ital used a big one around the axle as the sole support for the hand brake cable.
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shortie
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 10:30 PM |
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Just passing on what he said, can't say I've seen much wiring fixed to the chassis of newer production cars with cable ties
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