StevieB
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| posted on 17/8/07 at 09:37 PM |
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Ready made R1 Loom?
Hi,
Does anyone know of a place that would sell a complete loom for an R1 engined car.
I've been trying to get the bike loom to work for me, but it's really my weak point and I've reached the stage where I just want it
done, dusted and working.
Alternatively, how many £'s would I be looking at to get an expert to do it for me (roughly)?
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worX
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 12:34 AM |
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I think MK will do it for you for around £400. However there would be more than a few people that would take you through pretty much every stage on
here to get you to do it all yourself!
It's just how much time VS money that you want to play with.
I was thinking the same thing as you 9 months ago, but with the help of people from here (mostly BigRich), I not only managed to achieve it without
paying someone else, I also learnt a great deal in the process!
IMO - just ask a few decent well structured Questions to deal with one circuit at a time. Tackle it, and then get back on here!!!
Steve
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locoboy
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 05:36 AM |
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I acompletely agree with the ^^^^^ comments,
i did not know anythng about electrics when i was building my car...............and i mean nothing!
With logical thinking and asking questions on here i managed to do pretty much all of it myself, i even anaged to battle through having a duff loom,
and chopping it out and starting again with another one.
Sure i got to a point where i had to call in another willing pair of hands to help see the wood for the trees but it was a simple fix and i was away
again.
AndyS from here kindly came round to wire in my hazards for me as that was asking a bit too much from my basic self taught knowlege.
Once you understand the basics and have a multimeter that works! then you will build confidence over time and even begin to faultfind your own
circuits to put right any errors.
I was putting off the wiring during my build because i was scared to tackle it, but with the knowledge base on here and a bit of patience it has all
come good.
most of all you can say in the pub carpark when eveyone is going 'cool car mate' that you built it and wired it yourself and puff your
chest out to suit!
 
ATB
Locoboy
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fesycresy
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 09:11 AM |
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Totally agree, one circuit at a time. That's all it takes.
Everyone has the same worries before they start and most find it the most therapeutic part of the build !
Have you fired the engine yet, or are you talking about the lighting side ?
If I can get my scanner to work, I'll put up a picture of the hazard circuit, probably the most difficult part.
Lyn.
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 10:02 AM |
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Firstly, have you got a Haynes manual for your R1?
If not, get one.
If its anything like the 'blade manual, then the wiring diagram should be very easy to follow and relate directly to the loom itself with
regards to the colour code etc.
You then need to decide whether to extend the bike loom for the lights etc. or, like me, splice it into the car loom I already had. The first option
is probably the easiest.
As others have already stated, just go through it one circuit at a time and check each circuit as you complete it to make sure it works ok. That way,
should you get a problem, it should be a lot simpler to find and remedy the fault.
HTH,
Andy.
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StevieB
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 04:10 PM |
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I've got the Haynes Manual, though it seems I may have an american engine and the loom is slightly different from anything shown in the manual
(looks like Yamaha have taken a 4XV loom and made it into a 5JJ loom - I have an earlyish 5JJ engine, so this may well be the case).
I haven't got the engine fired for the first time yet - that's what I'm aiming for at the moment, though I can't seem to get
the clocks to even light up yet, which is what's giving me the major headache and making me look for alternatives.
I've been trying to get the wiring sorted for about 10 weeks now, but just kep going round in circles because I'm not entirely sure what
to do
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StevieB
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 09:27 PM |
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Right - managed to get my clocks to light up and most things seem to be working circuit wise (as in all of the various warning lights are falshing
etc, so the circuits must be working to some extent!).
I guess I just need to fettle the exup/sidestand/clutch switches to ensure that the thing will start and then I can tackle the lighting later.
Cheers for the advice guys - amazing how just getting one little thing to work can give you a bit more confidence in what you're doing!
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worX
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| posted on 18/8/07 at 10:36 PM |
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thats cool - glad you've made progress!
As for leaving the lighting side 'til later tats cool also - What I did was when I got a bit bored doing something I went back and did a bit
more wiring.
The lighting circuits and horn/fan etc are all VERY simple to do.
I wasn't looking forward to a sinlge thing re. my loom before I started, but I can say in all honesty that you will enjoy the wiring when it
nears the end...
As someone else said get a decent voltmeter and ask as many Q's on here as you want.
I struggled with my hazard circuit for a bit, but with help from people on here, got there in the end!
Steve
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paulmw
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| posted on 19/8/07 at 06:38 PM |
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I know what you mean Steve
I bolted the engine in yesterday and laid out the loom thinking its a plug and play.
Looks like Ive got many nights of head scratching ahead
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StevieB
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| posted on 19/8/07 at 08:52 PM |
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It's more of a headache than IFS!
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TimC
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| posted on 24/8/07 at 09:05 PM |
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Hi Steve
Depending on how tomorrow (start-up) goes, I might be able to tell you the bare minimum from the bike that you need to retain. I cut my ECU plug off
at about 6 inches and have gone from there. Time will tell.
TC
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