jeffw
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 10:17 AM |
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Starting
So....my Zetec engined Phoenix started to play up when starting..would click the soleniod and then start next turn of the key, this has got worse and
worse till it didn't start at all.
Changed the starter motor which worked fine the first 3 times then it starting clicking the soleniod and then nothing at all. Checked the cabling,
re-made the positive terminal from the battery. Ran a jump cable from the engine to the negative terminal to rule out earth problems and still
nothing. Charged the battery last night and the same thing this morning.
When you turn the key to start the fuel pump and every other electrical device stops working. When you come of the starter position it all comes back
to life as happy as Larry.
I guess it must be the switch ....but it does seem to be earthing out the battery
Any ideas ???
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 10:25 AM |
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if it was earthing out the battery I think you'd see smoke
Have you tried just shorting out the solenoid terminal on the starter (screw driver to the + cable) to see if the starter will turn normally?
I’d check the fuses one by one, then a meter on the ignition switch back terminals to see if they are live in all the correct switch positions.
[Edited on 17/6/08 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 10:51 AM |
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Tried another battery?
What voltage do you measure at the battery terminals when you turn the key? If it drops below 9-10V then it's a dead battery.
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jeffw
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 10:54 AM |
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Do get a little wisp of smoke off the positive terminal.
I'll check the starter with the screwdriver.... Might be a dead battery as it was reading 15.4Volts when it was fully charged which is high (!)
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 11:05 AM |
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last time I shorted out the battery I got a bit more than a wisp, the wire cut through the carpet...
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Bigheppy
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 11:32 AM |
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I had a similar problem with starting a 1600 crossflow. It turned out to be the solenoid I only found the problem when trying to remove the wire from
the starter side it just fell to bits. I know your starter will be different but its worth checking your solenoid even if its new especially if its
reconditioned. Also from what you say the other electrical systems shut down while cranking, this could be normal as when you start most cars the
radio goes off and gauges dont operate. This could be due to the amount of current being drawn by the starter. Did you check the battery straight
after it came off charge if so check it after it has been standing for a while. Hope you get it fixed soon .
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jeffw
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 12:07 PM |
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Battery drops to 0.5 volts when trying to crank (!)
Very strange as this drives the fuel pump and everything else fine.
New battery required
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 03:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
Battery drops to 0.5 volts when trying to crank (!)
Are you putting the meter test probes directly onto the lead terminals of the battery? If so the battery is well and truly dead!
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jeffw
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 08:52 PM |
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New battery and cleaned/remade all the postive connections and the engine earths...and it starts !
Thanks God for that, I can get it MoT'ed on Thursday and the Ring next week 
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