scutter
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 04:48 PM |
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What's it worth (TIG)
As I continue to fail at mastering it and it won't do alloy, I'm trying to guage to sale price for my GYS 160 TIG/MMA welder.
It's a scratch start without a pedal and apart from me balling the ends of several electrodes has had next to no use. The Bases coded welder
has run it up and proved that it works 
It comes with all you can see and a stick welding holder and 2 1/2" across bundles of welding rods, one mild and one stainless.
Does anyone have any ideas on it's worth?
ATB Dan.
 
TIG front
 
TIG all
[Edited on 2/1/16 by scutter]
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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madteg
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 04:56 PM |
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Looks like hf start to me
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coozer
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 04:57 PM |
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HF on it, so its not scratch start is it????
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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ken555
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 05:13 PM |
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Look here
It does both
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blakep82
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 05:16 PM |
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3 way toggle switch at the bottom goes between lift start at the top, MMA in the middle, HF start at the bottom.
Its better than you thought! That's said, its only worth a tenner, but I'll be generous and give you 15 posted 
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loggyboy
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 05:24 PM |
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Worth about £50... im feeling generous so can give you £100 and I'll collect... 
Edit
Took too long to reply... beaten to the punch line.
[Edited on 2-1-16 by loggyboy]
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scutter
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 05:33 PM |
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You guys are the funniest people i've meet this year
Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 05:58 PM |
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seems to be last years model so not a huge amount,similar are around £300 new,i would say your best bet would be to bribe your mate into giving you
welding lessons 
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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blakep82
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 06:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
seems to be last years model so not a huge amount,similar are around £300 new,i would say your best bet would be to bribe your mate into giving you
welding lessons
Agree with that tbh, tig takes practice. Lots of practice. But is the most ratifying thing ever when you can do it. Very close arc length, watch the
weld pool, don't travel too close, lovely stuff
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scutter
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 06:13 PM |
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Thanks Conrodski. I'm selling to fund a new mig, my little snap on 130 is getting tired.
Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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Shooter63
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 06:20 PM |
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I had one of those, a cracking bit of kit for the price, keep at it, it will come, keep the torch in your good hand, feed the wire with the other, but
only when needed, sit down, be comfortable, and rest your hands if possible, sharpen the needle to a long pin sharp point, try and keep it a few mm
from the work. All of a sudden it will make total sense.
Shooter
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coozer
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 06:36 PM |
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£120 + postage any good to ya??
1972 V8 Jago
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mark chandler
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 06:45 PM |
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Once you have mastered TIG the MIG will only come out when working from below.
Keep at it, looks like a good machine to me, as an inverter a couple of hundred I would guess it it has IBGT hardware.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 07:10 PM |
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Stick with it , once it comes together it's so much nicer than mig . Could swap it for a Clarke mig it you want?
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/1/16 at 08:42 PM |
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Dan,i have a 30 odd year old strap on/cebora,if it,s the same as mine,i might have it off you for spares .
re learing,i learnt on oxy before all this new fangled electricery was invented so first time i used a tig it was easy peasy
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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hizzi
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 10:04 AM |
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keep the tig, start by fusing heavy steel about 3mm and just push the weld pool around, once you can do that switch to thinner stuff then start adding
rod you will soon get it, so handy when building a car for small stainless bits etc. also arc welding with the inverter is so much easier too
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 10:44 AM |
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Not worth as much as you probably think, especially if you're of the 'car owes me' £15,000 Pinto Indy mentality.
Keep it.
Stick with it, it's great fun. Be sure that your job is clean, well jointed, as clinical as you can get it. Any gap filling with TIG is a
horrible process, involving delivering far too much heat.
Gap filling and crawling around in awkward situations, probably dealing with material that you can't get a good cleaning tool on to, is what the
MIG is for. MIG is a really crude tool, once you've twigged with TIG.
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scutter
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Once you have mastered TIG the MIG will only come out when working from below.
Keep at it, looks like a good machine to me, as an inverter a couple of hundred I would guess it it has IBGT hardware.
Mark, Could you explain IBGT Hardware.
Mr Mayhem, trust me I definately don't keep track of the cost of the car, been doing it too long.
Conrodski, I might have to pop over for a few pointers, reading people comments it really should be a skill I learn, I found evening classes, but work
won't allow me to take 10 nights off, as I work week of days week of nights.
Regards Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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davidimurray
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 01:21 PM |
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I bought a cheap Chinese arc/tig welder years ago as it was for a bargain price. Then decided to build the car so thought why not learn to use the TIG
and weld all the chassis/wishbones etc.
It takes lots of practice to TIG but it is so satisfying. Start by just getting two pieces of strip next to each other and join them by melting the
joint without any filler. Then have a go at overlapping plates. Once you can get good welds then add filler and practice with that.
Below about 1mm without a pedal will be challenging so start with 1.6mm+ material. Remember, that you don't have to move quickly like MIG or
ARC. You are just providing heat so you can go slowly and even just heat up a pool.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 01:43 PM |
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My mistake, insulated gate bipolar transistor (IGBT) are more expensive semiconductors, the cheaper ones use MOSFETs
Put simply MOSFETs are first generation invertor technology, IGBT are 2nd generation and have better characteristics for both endurance and
performance so are superior performing items.
If you look at new invertors say 200amp AC/DC on eBay you have pretty much two price points, £400-500 or £900-1000.
I had a cheap one (MOSFET), it worked very well but had to go back for repair then got stolen, I replaced with an expensive r-tech and it is far nicer
to use, more stable and been good for a few years now.
Before either of those I had a transformer based Marshall dynabolt (similar to a millers) it consumed electricity but was superb in use and
indestructable for hobby use.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 3/1/16 at 04:24 PM |
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I bought my Chinese tig a few years back. I've not had many hours on it but I can join two bits of metal together but it ain't prety.
It's awesome for stuff that needs to to air or liquid tight. Sumps, fuel tanks, manifolds and much more.
I am looking to upgrade mine when I have saved up a bit for a 200a AC/DC machine.Choice at the moment is between the Rtech digital and the Thermal
arc.
Swapped this exhaust flange a few weeks back. Well I am pleased......ish.
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