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alistairolsen - 9/7/09 at 11:13 AM

Right, through many years of owning modified tintops Ive got used to the endless list of mods to make sure they know everything an youre actually covered, down to non standard air filters and crap.

Just got a ringback from together and spoke to a very polite gentleman who merely asked me what make and capacity the engine was, and what the car was. I said it was a locost chassis but on irs and a cifferent engine and front uprights and things and he said that was fine, never asked about wheels, exhaust, brakes, suspension, bushes, seats etc etc.

Is this normal? How on earth do they evaluate the risk, or is a kit car justa kit car?

Cheers


Mr Whippy - 9/7/09 at 11:25 AM

yeah quite normal, I never got asked anything like I do with normal cars. Never even had to send in a picture & kit cars tend to be vastly cheaper to insure than a production car of the same performance. All I usually got asked was the make and size of engine, that was pretty much it.

[Edited on 9/7/09 by Mr Whippy]


alistairolsen - 9/7/09 at 11:29 AM

So what happens when you come to claim and they find out you were running a 900bhp v8 on 13x5 wheels, 175 tyres and 200mm drums?

and how do they decide whether to charge more for a hayabusa car than a crossflow?

Seems weird!


Ninehigh - 12/7/09 at 09:00 PM

As long as the details you gave them are correct it's their tough. If they don't ask about modifications then you don't tell


alistairolsen - 15/7/09 at 09:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
As long as the details you gave them are correct it's their tough. If they don't ask about modifications then you don't tell


not normally true, most companies cover it with a term in the smallprint about disclosing any relevant information so even if they dont ask, you get fugered for not telling them. What got me was i tried to tell him and he was insistant it didnt matter.


Ninehigh - 17/7/09 at 06:47 PM

I suppose if they say it doesn't matter then fine. But I'm good at playing dumb and if they don't ask how do I know to tell? Mine's got the tax disc in the top corner instead of the bottom is that relevant? (Continue to throw tiny little details at them until they give up)


alistairolsen - 18/7/09 at 10:36 AM

I guess, just the point is, you wont know till you have to claim, and then youll have a hard tim explaining why you dont have "turbocharged" or "rollcage" on your policy. At the point its down the the underwriters and the broker can largely wash their hands


Ninehigh - 18/7/09 at 05:16 PM

Yeah there is a difference when it's a vehicle you've built yourself, but when they ask "Is there any modifications or aftermarket equipment fitted to your car" I always answer "Not that I know of" when I do know


DarrenW - 20/7/09 at 01:13 PM

There is no such thing as a standard kit car so how do you determine what are mods?


alistairolsen - 20/7/09 at 01:17 PM

you wouldnt, but Id expect them to want to now some details. The guy took the capacity, didnt seem to care about the turbo...

never asked about brake sizes, specs, suspension, anything!

He got its sort of like a locost and has a 2.3 engine!


Ninehigh - 20/7/09 at 05:02 PM

Could have bumped it to a 2.4, twin Kawasaki engines


alistairolsen - 21/7/09 at 09:10 AM

what?


DarrenW - 21/7/09 at 09:52 AM

For my Mac#1 i have only ever been asked the basic spec.

For the Mk1 Golf GT1 i restored a few years back it was insured on the basis that it was under 150bhp, but the insurance company did ask for a sheet listing the mods. The mods didnt change the quote as such as it was a generic modified car policy, but i did have to send it in in case i ever had a claim.

I found it strange that kit car ins didnt ask for a list at first, but now take it as normal. They seem to be more interested in what the total value would be, so id guess this would form part of the claims procedure. A bit like house buildings insurance, you are insured for a rebuilding cost but never have to detail the exact spec or fittings in the house.


Ninehigh - 21/7/09 at 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by alistairolsen
what?


Well if they were just interested in the engine size you could have made it a double engined BEC and really took the mickey out of them


alistairolsen - 22/7/09 at 06:51 AM

as opposed to a 300+ bhp 5 cylinder turbo engine?