mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 06:39 PM |
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1000 pound budget for a Mountian bike Which one?
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spdpug98
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 06:53 PM |
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I bought a Cube Ltd Race about 6 months ago, probably the best mountain bike I have ever had
Although the Boardman bikes from Halfords tend to have a better spec for the money, if you can live with buying your bike from Halfords and the
service that comes with it - I would have bought the Boardman Pro when I bought the Cube but they hadn't released the 2011 bikes
My Cube:
[Edited on 14/9/11 by spdpug98]
My Blog: http://spdpug98.wordpress.com/
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simonwinn
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 06:53 PM |
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It all depends on what you want to use it for. XC, downhill or freeride all seem to crop up. Also front or full suspension there are too many to
choose from.
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 07:35 PM |
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DO NOT BUY A NEW FULL SUSPENSION FOR LESS THAN 2K MIN
How ever you should get a good new hard tail for that sort of money, go for a marin, orange or kona
edit: you need to decied what you want your bike to do
[Edited on 14/9/11 by tomgregory2000]
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iank
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 07:39 PM |
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Also consider second hand, you'll be able to pick up a 2 year old bike in good condition that cost considerably more than that new.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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ashg
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 08:55 PM |
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£1000 on a bike!!!! what is it mad out of? space dust?
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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locoboy
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 09:02 PM |
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Pat,
I agree with the above that you should decide what kind of riding you want to do first, likening it to to the familiar responses to the age old
question posted on here 'What car should i build / what engine should i upgrade to'
I was in a similar position 18 months ago and i decided to go down the route of building my own bike ( well technically I didn't build
it) I bought all the parts either new or well looked after/low mileage second hand from reputable sources.
I bought the frame from Tegwin on here, its a 2004 specialized enduro full suspension cross country bike.
I then frequented the singletrack forum Clicky for generic MTB forum for advice from friendly well
seasoned mountain bikers of all standards and across all disciplines, then i also frequented the classifieds forum
Clicky for purchases to pick up bits for the build, and if i was struggling then I
went to the Wanted classifieds Clicky for wanted to pick up any specific
bits you want.
This is by far the most active classifieds forum I have ever seen, there is a strong sense of community among the members and they are all a good
bunch who will send out the item you purchased in good time following paypal payment or bank transfer.
I built mine almost back to original spec and it cost me £500 including getting it built using new bearings bushes and consumables coupled with either
new or very good condition major components such as bars, forks, shocks, chain rings etc. The end result is that i have a bike that is worth more as a
whole than it has cost me to build and it is in 'as new' condition in terms of the way it rides and in it's day it cost a
considerable amount more than it cost me to build it, I don't need the latest biking technology to allow me to enjoy myself on the road or the
trails, 2004 technology is more than adequate and its not an out dated style so you wont fall foul to the bike fashion police.
I wanted a bike that would allow me to go riding with the misses and family I.e road / cycle way / gravel track and also allow me to go off on my own
or with other for a ride on the offroad trails or around the local woodland tracks, ultimately I would like to be A) fit enough and B) talented enough
to join one of my best mates for a riding holiday in Chamonix, France where he has moved to live and work because the riding is so good.
I have had a good summer at it this year and i am looking at investing in some proper cycling clothing to allow me to comfortably cycle throughout the
winter months and keep my fitness and skills on the upward slope so that I am edging towards that holiday!
If i can be of any help just yell and i will do what i can.
Col
ATB
Locoboy
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greggors84
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 09:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
DO NOT BUY A NEW FULL SUSPENSION FOR LESS THAN 2K MIN
[Edited on 14/9/11 by tomgregory2000]
Why not?
There are plenty of sub 2k full suspension bikes now that are great for XC or all mountain riding. £1500 or even £1000 will get you a great full
suspension bike that will be alot more forgiving than a hard tail and allow you to hit the bumpy stuff harder and faster.
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 09:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
£1000 on a bike!!!! what is it mad out of? space dust?
no tax, no insurance, no MOT. be daft not to.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 09:52 PM |
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Are you sure you need a mountain bike ?
I'm no expert on these things, but my hybrid is much more suitable for me and more versatile than a mountain bike might be. That and a road bike
are all I need. ( Although, I really really want a Brompton too, don't know why, I just do.)
I could be wrong though, if you genuinely need a mountain bike, go for it.
Not sure you need to drop a grand on one though.
I would respectfully suggest that half of that will actually buy you all the bike you need.
I'm sure that there are those who appreciate the difference a 2 grand bike makes, but I wouldn't class myself as one of them.
£500 take you well outside of Bike Shaped Object territory, that's all that really matter, that you end up with a bike rather than a BSO.
Are you doing this through C2W ?
If you are, I have helpful spreadsheets which assist in working out the true cost.
[Edited on 14/9/11 by zilspeed]
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 09:55 PM |
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I have a specialised rock hopper from way back 1994 before all the suspension and that was £800ish back in the day
not used it for the last 6 years just hung up in the garage
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Bare
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| posted on 14/9/11 at 11:57 PM |
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Ermm There are barely even any hills let alone 'Mountains' inna UK :-)
The need for a mountain bike seems perplexing.
Heres 's some real Mountains
http://nsmba.ca/
and yes I have a "mountain' bike :-)
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 01:16 AM |
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Aye, sod all mountains and no reason for an MTB in the UK, strange how we do fairly well on the world scene with homegrown talent eh 
PLENTY of good full sus bikes for 1-1500 and some really nice hardtails for 1K these days, anyone telling you you need a 2K bike as your first MTB
needs a lobotomy . But as said above, make sure it's what you want.
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eddbaz
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 04:13 AM |
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Cycle to work scheme ?
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 08:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by greggors84
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
DO NOT BUY A NEW FULL SUSPENSION FOR LESS THAN 2K MIN
[Edited on 14/9/11 by tomgregory2000]
Why not?
There are plenty of sub 2k full suspension bikes now that are great for XC or all mountain riding. £1500 or even £1000 will get you a great full
suspension bike that will be alot more forgiving than a hard tail and allow you to hit the bumpy stuff harder and faster.
My point is that the components that you will find on a £1000 hard tail will be of much higher quality than what you would find on a £1000 full
suspension (the money for the parts has to come from somewhere)
Also i do agree you can get an ok full sus for £1500 but it would be only any good for xc use, all mountain is completly different and requires much
better components if you want it to last.
Now the frames, you might find will be the same across a range of bikes from one company, but you are paying more the higher up the range you go for
much better components.
I bought myself a hardcore hardtail from marin, top of the range and cost £1050, its been used almost every day to go to and from work and off road as
well and in 3 years of constant use it has not required any money to be spent on it
Mine was one of these
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 08:44 AM |
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I bought a last year model Giant for £200 with a suspension seat post and forks and it's been good. I can't see the point of old blokes
buying expensive bikes 
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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scootz
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 08:48 AM |
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This is all you will ever need...
It's Evolution Baby!
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Davey D
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:16 AM |
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Having XT parts in the drivetrain, and Fox forks i would hope that it would last 3 years, although i do hope youve had your forks serviced in that
time span?
As said above, the OP really needs to decide what he wants to use it for, and a better recommendation can be made.
It may be worth buying a copy of "What Mountainbike" magazine, as in the back they have the top 5 of all the different bike parts, and
different bikes for different disciplines.
At the no.1 spot for a budget XC hardtail is the 2009 carrera fury which you can still buy new from Halfords for around £500. This is more than good
enough for starting out for most people until they decide they want to move onto greater things
It has X5 drivretrain, Avid Juicy 3 brakes, suntour 120mm travel air forks with 15mm through axle, and mavic rims on shimano hubs.
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
quote:
Originally posted by greggors84
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
DO NOT BUY A NEW FULL SUSPENSION FOR LESS THAN 2K MIN
[Edited on 14/9/11 by tomgregory2000]
Why not?
There are plenty of sub 2k full suspension bikes now that are great for XC or all mountain riding. £1500 or even £1000 will get you a great full
suspension bike that will be alot more forgiving than a hard tail and allow you to hit the bumpy stuff harder and faster.
My point is that the components that you will find on a £1000 hard tail will be of much higher quality than what you would find on a £1000 full
suspension (the money for the parts has to come from somewhere)
Also i do agree you can get an ok full sus for £1500 but it would be only any good for xc use, all mountain is completly different and requires much
better components if you want it to last.
Now the frames, you might find will be the same across a range of bikes from one company, but you are paying more the higher up the range you go for
much better components.
I bought myself a hardcore hardtail from marin, top of the range and cost £1050, its been used almost every day to go to and from work and off road as
well and in 3 years of constant use it has not required any money to be spent on it
Mine was one of these
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:22 AM |
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No-one who's going to ask on a car forum is going to require the use of a top end AM full sus, it's pointless making such recommendations
(although I see that you were actually just suggesting keeping away from full sus, rather than buying a more expensive machine) - anyone buying that
kind of machine and using it properly would know what to look for and where to find answers. Thing is often people want a full sus for comfort and/or
back issues, and don't need to spend that much either.
Sure you can get better components on a higher end hardtail than on a mid-range full sus, goes without saying, but they still require maintenance (3
years without any? It's about to fall apart!). But what's more you can buy "too good" - XTR kit tends to fall apart fairly
quickly these days (wasn't the case back in the 90s) - I've burned through XTR cassettes in 200 miles - pricey.
XT or one down (whatever they are choosing to call it these days) is excessive for a hack bike for commuting on and won't give you much over the
next down groupset in that situation other than lighter weight. It's the really budget groupsets you want to keep away from as they have
lifespan issues, but you're talking £200 bikes there. 500 quid will find you a lovely, light, perfectly usable quality bike. Don't believe
the hype!
Find a big bike shop that carries lots of stock and see what they have from last season - they usually sell them off at ~50% of current bike price.
There's lots of bull in the industry these days, like suggesting XC bikes can't be ridden "all mountain" or whatever noncy
name it has these days - sure it won't take a hucking to flat off a 6ft drop, but it'll do pretty much all you ask of it until the point
where you're good enough to know what you want.
(And yes, being 1000 quid I suspect we're looking at C2W, so you may be limited in retailers who'll take it on.
Think carefully about whether you want an MTB or a road/hybrid bike - road bikes are a LOT easier to ride long distances and at a decent pace, even
over a hardtail with slicks (I used to ride 34 miles a day on a hardtail with slicks, my average speed went up 3.5mph overnight when I bought a road
bike!)
quote:
i do hope youve had your forks serviced in that time span?
You'd hope, or they're screwed by now. Fox forks don't cope well in the UK, and really badly when not serviced every stupidly
small quantity of miles. And it's about 60 quid a time unless you do it yourself, in which case you're needing seals and foams IIRC -
still about 20 quid a time.
[Edited on 15/9/11 by coyoteboy]
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Charlie_Zetec
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 10:06 AM |
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I used to have a Specialized Stump Jumper few years back with custom bits on it, but sold it as I wasn't using it enough. Not the pounds are
piling back on, I've decided to add to the toy collection and buy myself a new 2-wheeler of the manual powered variety
Ordered a Cannondale Trail SL1 hardtail couple of weeks ago. I paid £1,000 for it along with an insurance approved chain, helmet etc., but think you
can pick them up online for £850-900 delivered.
Google it and see what you think!
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!
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bobinspain
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 10:40 AM |
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I bought a x-country MB for my 16 yr old lad for Christmas.
Honest answer is do plenty of on-line research.
Decide what you want the bike to do.
There are plenty of 'bike supermarkets' with superb sites, giving star ratings as awarded by buyers/riders.
Sports supermarkets do "own brands" with top of the range models around £1k here in Spain eg Decathlon. They get very good write-ups
because of their buying power which enables them to sell high spec' bikes at great prices.
I did all the above, then saw a Marin framed very high spec bike put together by a mature (30's) bike-officianado. The parts cost £3,200 (I
checked) and that tallied with his receipts. The bike was less than a year old, little used and immaculate. I bought it through ebay for £950 and had
it couriered out her to Spain.
My lad was over the moon and I saved myself a wad of cash.
Good luck with your search.
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kipper
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 04:24 PM |
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£1000 for a push iron!!!!!?????
Wow is that how much they cost? For another grand you could buy my 1992 classic fireblade
Denis
Where did that go?
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hobzy
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 04:53 PM |
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A trek 6700 hardtail here smack on 1000 3 years ago. Always had specialized before but the trek is lovely and is lasting well.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 05:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddbaz
Cycle to work scheme ?
Yep C2W
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 07:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
This is all you will ever need...
We have that very cycle upstairs in the back room in need of renovation but not too bad, still usable if it had new tyres and inner tubes.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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