sdh2903
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:06 PM |
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which car engine for 200bhp
I'm not building anything at the minute but am always on the mooch for a project. I have my eye on a couple of things at present that are
tempting and this got me thinking about engine choice. Which car engines are best at the minute?
Must be N/a or supercharged, not a huge fan of turbo power for lightweight applications.
Must be around the 200bhp mark
Pretty light
Not cost the earth say a hypothetical budget of 2k?
For the projects in mind 4 cyl only, possibly compact v6
My thoughts were:
2.0 zetec + headwork+ cams + throttlebodies maybe 180bhp
2.0 duratec + throttle bodies maybe 190 ish
S2000 240 bhp standard but expensive and bit more pricey to get running
Civic type r engine If you can get a suitable box?
Anyone have any further options/opinions? all info gratefully received!
Steve
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Ian Jones
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:09 PM |
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a charged mx5?
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rodgling
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:13 PM |
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Rover K series will do nearly 200, at least for a short while? GKD's supercharger kit for the BMW 4-cylinders will do about 200 I think,
expensive way to achieve that result though.
Flat 6 from an older Boxster? Stretches the budget a little bit but would be awesome in a lightweight car?
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mark chandler
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:22 PM |
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Scrap A V6 S type jag, they come in manual form as well so a matched gearbox donor
240bhp I think, although will have lost some in time
[Edited on 11/7/13 by mark chandler]
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daniel mason
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:26 PM |
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id go for the 2.0 ford duratec probably. nice and light too!
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karlak
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:26 PM |
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Duratec - Mine today.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=183434
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:28 PM |
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2.0 Duratec, bike throttle bodies and megasquirt and will do it for less than 2k
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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coozer
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:34 PM |
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Volvo 6 pot..
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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eddie99
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 06:34 PM |
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+1 for Duratec
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DIY Si
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 07:11 PM |
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KLDE V6. Tiny little engine and 205 or sp BHP on ITBs. Mine's going in a Sprite.
Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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britishtrident
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 07:12 PM |
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Keep the weight in mind in a light car saving 40 kg is worth a lot of HP and handling.
[I] What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Poorscousertommy
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 07:34 PM |
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After throttle bodies, what would the collective suggest to tip a duratec over the 200 mark for least £££?? Fast road cam??
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sdh2903
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 07:37 PM |
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Cheers for the suggestions. The BMW m42/m43 is out due to the canted over engine although the supercharger is an interesting option as I believe it
runs a standard ecu.
I have seen the couple of kl v6 builds and love the noise of the thing, I would need to finalise my plans to get measurements to see if one would fit.
Good point about the weight BT so how do the various options stack up weight wise, Is the Duratec the lightest option? and what's realistically
needed to get to the 200bhp mark?
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SPYDER
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 08:02 PM |
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What about the 3SGE 2 litre Toyota in VVT-i format from a Jap import Lexus Altezza.
208 hp. NA. Six speed box.
Drawbacks are iron block and they are a bit tall, but no more so than the S2000 motor.
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unijacko67
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 08:20 PM |
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Honda s2000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5pb19eOzrc
[Edited on 11/7/13 by unijacko67]
http://www.kittenkitcar.co.uk
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sdh2903
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 09:21 PM |
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3sge interesting leftfield option but I'm guessing rare but will look into it.
Unijacko whats a realistic estimate of getting the s2k lump in and running?
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sdh2903
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 09:23 PM |
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Seems there's a fair few 3sge engines on the bay pretty cheap too. Hmmm interesting.
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unijacko67
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 09:51 PM |
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Unijacko whats a realistic estimate of getting the s2k lump in and running?
I bought a damaged full car 07 AP2 for £4500 and have had more than that back for the parts. don't get me wrong its lots of time and work and
you do need space to keep it under cover. So I've got engine, gearbox, switches, ecu, sensors and loom for my labours. Lots of work stripping
loom back, but again can be done on the cheap. Even doing it like that I've spent far more than I ever expected, I've had to make loads of
the bits myself on the build and stopped adding it all up when it got to 12k. Just been out in it tonight and its awesome.
http://www.kittenkitcar.co.uk
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theduck
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 10:07 PM |
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Renault F4R from a renaultsport Clio? Though gearbox is the issue there.
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SPYDER
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 10:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
Seems there's a fair few 3sge engines on the bay pretty cheap too. Hmmm interesting.
Make sure that it is the RWD version that you are looking at. Most 3SGE engines on ebay are from Celica or MR2 and are difficult to convert to RWD
layout. Ask me how I know!
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silky16v
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| posted on 11/7/13 at 11:16 PM |
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Have a look at my thread on here http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/9/viewthread.php?tid=183316
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t11
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| posted on 12/7/13 at 05:35 AM |
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Engine
Hi a toyota 3sge for me....bullet proof but a bit heavy on itb"s and megasquirt mine does just shy of 200bhp and goes like stink set up by
Bailey Performance......Gordon
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loggyboy
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| posted on 12/7/13 at 07:38 AM |
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Redtop would be my choice.
Mistral Motorsport
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INDY BIRD
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| posted on 12/7/13 at 08:01 AM |
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Rover k series light and revive,
My friend just bought a mg 160bhp engine and had the head ported by scholar and a set of mild cams it made 206 bhp on the rollers engine cost £560
head work was £700 ish and 400 for the cams that's good cheap bhp he did the write up in pc magazine as it was fitted in a Caterham,
The 160 engines are stronger as have better pistons so can rev to around 8k above that you will need to get stronger valve springs and piston upgrades
he will have the car on track with me this weekend at Woodbridge,
That's cheap power,
And lots of spares for then
Mine makes 185 bhp and with more to come
Good luck and also they are very light so power to weight of the engine is better than most for 200 bhp
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 12/7/13 at 08:43 AM |
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Renisis RX8 engine.
Compact and Lightweight. 230bhp ish. If you get past the horror stories there great.
There also a doddle to rebuild
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