02GF74
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 09:47 AM |
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Should the west start meddling in Libya
as per titile, should the west start to poke their nose into Libya, such as impose no-fly zone.
[Edited on 11/3/11 by 02GF74]
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MikeFellows
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 09:54 AM |
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Its got oil
we need oil as I dont want to pay £1.50 a litre
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Yazza54
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 09:54 AM |
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No. Why is everything our problem? We aren't some kind of frigging world police. It's no wonder everyone hates us.
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daviep
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 09:55 AM |
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Yes - we need a stable supply of oil.
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ChrisLeary
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:00 AM |
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No, because it'll strecth our armed forces even further, and we do enough work already! 3months in afghan and then only 8 months at home before
going again is enough, especially with a family, so adding more detachments would mean having to employ more servicemen and women and then that needs
paying for, so fuel and anything else that can make the government money will increase in price anyway.
Like Yazza54 said, we're not the world police!
The days of the Great British Empire ruling the world are well and truely in the past, let them get on with it...
Chris
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Andi
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:06 AM |
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No.
Its got oil, so has Iraq and oil price has rocketed.
Makes you think, what if we and the US owned all the oil? Maybe we could run the monopoly and
charge what we like as there would be no competition?
Hmmmmmmmmmm!
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dave107
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:15 AM |
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No we shouldn't we are not the world police, and iv'e been told by an petrol station manager we will be paying 1.60 by the end of the
month and that's just the start of it.
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:19 AM |
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If we go into Libya it will only benefit the Americans who may get cheaper oil. We will have to pay out for the armed forces etc. which means yet
higher taxes to cover it and we still wont get cheaper oil. In fact it will cost us more as they tax fuel harder to pay for all the guns, bombs and
soldiers we use up getting the Americans their cheaper oil!
Of course our government don't value a soldiers life very highly so it's mostly the guns and bombs that'll cost, a soldiers life is
cheap to the likes of Blair or Cameron or any of our elected leaders it would seem!
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James
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:24 AM |
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Yes... if the rebels want us to. If not, then no, stay out of it.
Although I'm talking about a 'relatively' low risk no-fly zone and targeted air strikes against military assets. Boots on the ground
would be a mistake for sure!
Gaddafi is a lunatic and is murdering his own population. He's also a terrorist who was responsible for the worst ever terrorist atrocity on
British soil- heard of Lockerbie?
I think most would argue that a Police force is necessary in this country- so why is it so bad for there to be a 'world police'? And if
us, the US, NATO or EU don't do it then who the hell else is going to? It only leaves China or Russia and their human rights records are hardly
exemplary!
Cheers,
James
EDIT: Yes, I know the armed forces are over-stretched. I'm anti defence spending cuts and the only thing I would be willing to spend more tax on
is the armed forces.
You'll notice all of a sudden the Nimrod scrapping has been put on hold. I've heard it suggested on Radio4 that there's going to be
a Defense Spending Review...review!
[Edited on 11/3/11 by James]
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edsco
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:25 AM |
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Can i point out that whilst Libya has oil, there are other sources of oil. According to some high brow newspaper, forget which, but Libya only
produce 2% of the worlds oil supply at the current rate. Estimates also show that they only sit on 3% of the oil reserves around the world. The USA
have over 5% of the oil reserves and the rest of the world make up the rest. My point is, why don't other producing oil nations pull their
finger out and start to up production. They don't because A) to drill for it is getting more expensive and B) if everyone started to up the
anti to make up the shortfall, prices would tumble which is precisely what these big oil producing giants don't want to happen.
Its a catch 22. But we need not be getting involved in Libya, as there are other trade deals that could be done. Our government is just too reliant
on current processes and to an extent stuck in their ways!
edsco
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tegwin
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:32 AM |
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Instability in that region would/is bad for us.... It is far better if there is a stable regime inplace, otherwise it will become the next home for
people like the taliban who like lawless regions where they can control people.
It is in our interest to deal with the issue, however we need to sit back at let the UN/NATO decide what is best and then act accordingly... we can
not have another illegal war on our hands...
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tilly819
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 10:49 AM |
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NO just no
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:02 AM |
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You won't get any thanks for interferring. Why is it that everytime something needs sorting out in an unstable country everyone looks to the
west to sort it out only to then throw every insult in the book at us. There are plenty of countries bordering Libya who if that concerned with the
way their neighbours are being treated should speak up and act. As soon as the west get involved we'll be back to the west is only there to
impose it's views/steal our oil problem again.
Leave it be.
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blakep82
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:05 AM |
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yeah, gives us something to do...
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:08 AM |
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Why not? After all it's not as if we have any of our own domestic problems to sort out, is it?
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femster87
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Instability in that region would/is bad for us.... It is far better if there is a stable regime inplace, otherwise it will become the next home for
people like the taliban who like lawless regions where they can control people.
It is in our interest to deal with the issue, however we need to sit back at let the UN/NATO decide what is best and then act accordingly... we can
not have another illegal war on our hands...
How much stability has the war brought to Iraq and afganistan?
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ashg
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:31 AM |
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don't care as long as they don't spend my taxes on it. I dont watch the news any more, its all rubbish. the uk/europe have to be the
most nosey neighbours in the world. we stupidly have way too much vested interest in other countries which always seems to end up being detrimental
to our own goals.
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franky
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:34 AM |
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Anyone who says yes has zero understanding of how the armed forces work, zero political understanding of the middle east, zero understanding of
Libya's military and ZERO common sense if they think it'll result in them saving money at the pump.
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coozer
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:43 AM |
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NO! Its time we shut our borders and pointed 2 fingers to the east while forging trading with America!
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Ivan
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 11:56 AM |
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No - since when has meddling helped anyone - I would guess the odds of it helping in the long run are poor - we just seem to gain more enemies each
time we meddle.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 12:05 PM |
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Yes.
Gaddafi is mennace. His argument for being in power 40 years was:
'... in Britain (where) for 57 years the Queen has been ruling. I have been in the same situation.'
Im sorry, anyone whose that dim shouldnt be allowed that much power. EVERY country has the right to be demoracy. I dont believe the governments care,
and will use the above as a convenient excuse to flex their muscles to gain what they can from the east, however, the people that live in these
countries do deserve an elected governent. In general (some of) the east needs to buck its ideas up and get with the westernway of doing things, they
all seem to hate the west for being better off, but the simple fact is we are better off because we have better, more organised, accountable powers in
place.
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blakep82
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 12:17 PM |
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looks like japans going to take over the news from libya now poor japan
anyway its more a UN peacekeeping thing isn't it? its not the UK just getting involved because we feel like it, but a UN action i thought? but
then i don't really watch the news (not through choice anyway, sometimes news 24 is on and i'm not allowed ot change it, or CNN wtf?)
[Edited on 11/3/11 by blakep82]
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phoenix70
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 01:15 PM |
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I say, yes, but only as part of a UN force
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snoopy
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 01:16 PM |
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personal view we wont have a choice what happens the new world order need an eastern union to go with the european union and the american union
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ashg
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| posted on 11/3/11 at 01:19 PM |
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forget the invasion, no fly zones. send in a crack team lockup or execute Gaddafi, move on job done.
yes i know its much more complicated than that but my comment goes to show just how much i think about the whole situation
[Edited on 11/3/2011 by ashg]
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