Iaing
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:28 PM |
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CEC TO BEC
Hey folks after a year of reliability issues with my current 1.8 k series Indy r I'm thinking of putting her down to Mk to have a hayabusa
conversion done.
Car is predominantly used for weekend blasts & track so not that bothered about having the smoothness of a car engine & gearbox tbh.
What's everyone's thoughts, should I go for it? Weight saving alone will be massive.
Thanks in advance
Iain
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scootz
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:31 PM |
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What?
Put a BIKE engine into a CAR?
Are you mad!?
It's Evolution Baby!
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welderman
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:33 PM |
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yay another convert
Thank's, Joe 
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:35 PM |
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You reckon your going to get less reliability issues with a bike engine hahaha (im in the cec camp) but if YOU want the bike engine go for it
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steve m
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:40 PM |
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Can i have your k series setup ??
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lewis
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:42 PM |
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It's not natural I tell thee
I am a driving god!..........sort of
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Iaing
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
You reckon your going to get less reliability issues with a bike engine hahaha (im in the cec camp) but if YOU want the bike engine go for it
What reliability issues should I expect with a bike engine apart from the clutch?
K series setup will be for sale if I decide to go for it. It's not standard either :-)
Mk Indy R - Hayabusa Power
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:52 PM |
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Keep a car engine in it, simply for reliability.
If the K-series is proving troublesome, then Ford comes to your aid with Zetec/Duratec or the good old solid Pinto. Really is nothing better. Problems
with 'reverse' and all that bike engine nonsense are simply eliminated as well. Far less noise, less vibes, more torque and well....
simply having a car engine makes the thing like, err... a car. A bike engine will only give you noise, silly revs, sequential gearshifting, F1 type
driving style and a wide grin. It all just encourages you to have too much fun, which may result in you being identified by the body snatchers, cause
global devastation or armageddon in general.
Better still, there are complete Ford conversion packages available, old Mondeo's (even Sierra's if you can find one) come with great
engines. If you retain the Mondeo body kit and chassis, you'll find that a bonus too. It's quiet, comfortable, comes with a good roof and
comfy seats. CD players and cup holders in later models.
If all this sounds a bit too much hard work, other complete engine/body kits are available ready built at sensible prices, try a nice little Citroen
Berlingo.
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ReMan
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:53 PM |
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None, do it you wont regret it
www.plusnine.co.uk
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eddie99
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 08:53 PM |
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If you want better reliability, i wouldn't do it, if you want a BEC because of the buzz then go for it. I have suffered massively with BEC
reliability but i plan on racing again in bikesports next season so it must be doing something for me 
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Iaing
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 09:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
If you want better reliability, i wouldn't do it, if you want a BEC because of the buzz then go for it. I have suffered massively with BEC
reliability but i plan on racing again in bikesports next season so it must be doing something for me
What reliability issues should I expect?
Mk Indy R - Hayabusa Power
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adithorp
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| posted on 11/10/11 at 09:32 PM |
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If it's anything like mine, none! I've got a tuned R1 waiting to go in mine but I can't break the current one dispite 13000miles of
trying. The way it's going I might have to break my golden rule (If it ain't broken don't fix it)
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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mark chandler
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 07:01 AM |
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Bike engines do 60,000 miles in bikes, gearbox is designed to work with the torque and BHP so no reason why it should be unreliable as everthing is
matched.
The issue is more around unsympathetic driving technique, rough gearbox changes stuffing the cogs and thrashing to death which would also screw up a
cars engine and box.
Regards Mark
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 11:16 AM |
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If you want reliability, then go BEC but keep it standard. If you go down the tuning road for more power and start adding turbos and superchargers
etc, you'll sacrifice reliability IMHO.
Phil
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Iaing
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 11:47 AM |
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I think a standard hayabusa will do me just fine!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 12:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Bike engines do 60,000 miles in bikes, gearbox is designed to work with the torque and BHP so no reason why it should be unreliable as everthing is
matched.
The fact that's it's dragging along 2-3 times the weight it is designed for is what puts the stress on the gearbox and clutch. If weight
isn't a factor then why do so many people have problems with gearboxes and clutches?
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 03:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Iaing
I think a standard hayabusa will do me just fine!
Just do it...
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/10/11 at 04:43 PM |
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A ZX12R will give you the same power/performance as a Busa but at a cheaper price. BUT.... if you do intend a few mods in the future, go for the
Busa.
Phil
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metro6r4
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| posted on 13/10/11 at 07:38 PM |
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if you don't mind my asking what spec is the troublesome k series as i raced a 220hp engined metro without much much trouble and im now planning
on fitting it to my Haynes roadster although i may be after some spares if you decide to sell it
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