tegwin
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| posted on 2/5/13 at 09:39 PM |
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Stand alone engine oil pump
I am trying to find a car engine oil pump to use on the lubrication system of my jet engine. Does anyone know of any oil pumps that come more or less
"ready" to use. IE I can just bolt on a motor to drive it and possibly a few bits and pieces to get the oil in/out of the pump? A lot have
crazy castings or require the engine block to get the oil into/out of the pump unit.
The only thing I have found so far is the VW beetle pump..Would be ideal but I wonder if there is something more complete that I can get off the
shelf?
Whatever pump I use it has to be able to do the following:
150 degrees C fluid temps
50-80 Psi even when oil is hot
Beetle pump:
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steve m
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| posted on 2/5/13 at 11:33 PM |
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xflow pump is a stand alone affair with filter, and i may have a spare one in the garage,
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tegwin
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 08:16 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
xflow pump is a stand alone affair with filter, and i may have a spare one in the garage,
That sounds interesting. Do you know if it sends all the oil through the filter or just some of it?
If you have it to hand would you mind taking some photos of it so I can get some idea of how it might work for my application?
Many thanks.
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scudderfish
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 08:34 AM |
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Hang on, JET ENGINE? More info now! 
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Agriv8
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 08:47 AM |
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have you had a read on here
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm
not cheep but woth a read !
ATB Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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tegwin
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 09:01 AM |
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Yes I had been looking at the shurflo pumps. There is one specific model that has suitable materials for hot oil.. But its £120... I know it would do
the job but its rather a lot of cash!..
Can't decide if I should just spunk out on the shurflo and stop messing about experimenting...... Experimentation with other pumps could save me
£50... or ruin the engine... when the pump fails 
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 10:09 AM |
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Theres a guy with a homemade gas turbine engine who used a power steering pump. i think he used a small petrol engine to drive it, but i would have
thought a cordless drill or pillar drill motor could be used.
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 10:18 AM |
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A Danfoss oil pump from a domestic or commercial heating boiler possibly, they'll pump kerosene and diesel at pretty high pressures and are
completely sealed and shaft driven so hopefully they'd pump oil too.
Found a few specs here:
http://www.danfoss.com/North_America/Products/Categories/Detail/HE-BD/Danfoss-Oil-Pumps/071N1151/11544c44-58db-44a0-9b53-59f0ec57d1a8/4bf9759b-59fa-4a
8d-bbd0-dfda86f7f3ed.html
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 10:25 AM |
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need to remember that pumps don't create pressure, only displacement. The flow restriction the turbo has will create the pressure. Most of these
big turbos will need a few liters a minute when warm to achieve 60psi or more. oil cooler is a must too - avoid putting it on the drain side, they
don't like back pressure.
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tegwin
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 10:28 AM |
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Funny you should say that..
I have a danfoss pump for the fuel oil
Their pumps seem to be only rated for fluid temps of around 70c... Not sure how well they would cope with much higher temps... seem pretty solid pumps
though.
I have a nice alloy oil cooler, filter block and header tank waiting to go. Just needed a decent pump.
You are right about pumps just providing displacement. Perhaps a rotary vane pump might be better than a gear pump..hmmm
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 11:04 AM |
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Not sure of the pressures or temperatures they stand, but I bet plenty of people on here have them kicking round from their builds.... A power
steering pump?
Might be worth a try for next to nowt, and worth fitting gauges anyway to keep an eye on pressures etc.
I'm sure there will be a use for a stand alone oil pump it's just thinking of it!.. Generators, A/C, diggers, racing cars to warm up n
cool down, aeroplanes etc
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 3/5/13 at 11:36 AM |
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Looks very promising:
Oil Pump Unit Honda CBR600 CBR 600 F3 95-98 EM11
http://bit.ly/16y73ES
Or if the link doesn't work eBay item no 260881208364
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