locoboy
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 06:51 PM |
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rough sawn timber
If i go to my local timber yard and ask for 1 inch x1 inch rough sawn timber should it measure up as 1 inch x 1 inch or is this an industry understood
thing where an inch rough sawn is not actually an inch?
I have ordered a considerable amount of it and its been ripped up out of a bigger piece which would appear to have been ouly 3/4 inch thick not the
full inch and its no good to me at only 3/4 thick.
I only noticed when i arrived home and it had been delivered in the day.
as you may have guessed i have not bought timber from a timber yard before only from BnQ etc where you see the size on the shelf!
ATB
Locoboy
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 06:59 PM |
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Rough-sawn is usually the size advertised - the confusion is when you buy planed timber where the given size is what it was before planing.
I think you've been short-changed...
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jamesg20
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 06:59 PM |
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Rough sawn in theory should be inch by inch if thats what you asked for, problem is these days it seems tolerances on standard timber sizes are
massive and seem to be accepted.
Plamed comes out less. Have a quick search online for the standard timber sizes.
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pinto
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:01 PM |
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hi locoboy sawn timber sould be almost what you ordered give or take a 1/6th planed timber should be this size minus planing
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locoboy
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:10 PM |
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my take is that if its rough sawn then if anything it would be over sized.
have tried searching for standard rough sawn sizes but gave up after finding nothing but references to rough sawn timber and nothing to do with
nominal sizes etc.
ATB
Locoboy
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flak monkey
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:17 PM |
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Rough sawn is usually pretty good on size. Complain if its miles under. As others have said its planed stuff that comes in undersize.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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roadrunner
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 07:42 PM |
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Whats happened , is the timber yard has cut up, say , 2x4, into 1x1, so the difference is the thikness of the saw blade.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 08:07 PM |
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If you need an exact size, you could use CLS (Canadian Lumber Specification I think) although this may not come in 1 inch thickness.
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Bitten hero
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 08:30 PM |
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Hi ya, im a carpenter-
Looks like they made a cock up as sawn timber should be just about the size you asked for planed as said is the size before final planing- take it
back wood is pretty much a bit hit or miss if you want exact sizes only way then is to do it yourself but even then it will vary !! cheers gary
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 08:30 PM |
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This is a scam a lot of places seem to try. Rough sawn timber should be dimensionally accurate, within a small reasonable tolerance for drying out.
My local yard pulled the same stroke when I ordered a load of 2"x2" for a shed framing. What came was 11/2"x2". When I sent it
back, they said they didn't have any 2"x2" so ripped some 2"x4"down.
Do not take any crap. Tell them you will go to Trading Standards, they will soon get you what you want. 
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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thunderace
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 09:01 PM |
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cls is Canadian Lumber Standard
par is
wbp is
lets see who know lol
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flak monkey
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 09:04 PM |
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PAR = Planed All Round
Not sure what WBP is
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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iank
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 09:45 PM |
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WBP = Water and Boil Proof. It's an exterior grade plywood designation IIRC.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Mal
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| posted on 17/5/07 at 11:35 PM |
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Sawn Timber
I don't know if your material has to be exactly 25x25, but a good way of getting sawn timber economically in this sort of size is to buy tiling
batten. 25x38 and 25x50 are standard sizes, but I am not sure about 25x25.
Mal
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locoboy
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| posted on 18/5/07 at 07:53 AM |
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Well thanks for advice,
took it back this morning and they were not very pleased.
Told me it came up under sized and i told them they were pulling a fast one and it needs to me a minimum of 1' thick.
I will be having the correct stuff delivered FOC tomorrow morning 
ATB
Locoboy
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timf
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| posted on 18/5/07 at 08:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by thunderace
cls is Canadian Lumber Standard
par is
wbp is
lets see who know lol
cls also known as contructional lumber stock
[Edited on 18/5/07 by timf]
A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him."
- Sir Winston S. Churchill, 1952
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 18/5/07 at 10:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by locoboy
I will be having the correct stuff delivered FOC tomorrow morning
Result! (apart from your wasted time). Just goes to show you should always stick to your guns.
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