Meh.... mediocre dentists cars......
Shame spyker couldnt come to some agreement though!
That is sad 
I love Saabs - seriously mental (with a bit of know how) understated cars that people think are dentist/pensioner mobiles rather than
tw*t mobiles like BMWs and Mercedes.......so you get let out at junctions, chavs don't try and race you and you can be pretty certain it will
still be where you parked it when you get back.....which is always a good thing!
fully agree, a real shame Saab are/were a great brand, did some terrific rally cars and were one of those cars you either loved or hated built to last solid and very reliable.
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built to last solid and very reliable.
I have a '98 9-5 2.3t and it's great 
Oh dear... bad news for the town of Trollhättan and surrounding area - they will really struggle!
I was in the SAAB museum a few weeks ago whilst visiting a friend in Sweden... some lovely cars in there!
Some of the snaps I took on my phone...
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shame, I learnt to drive in a 900 aero 16v. Massive turbo, beautiful car, went like the clappers.
Why couldn't this have happened to Vauxhall? Saab are waaaaaaay better
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone cares.
shame to see it happen to such an understated company, brilliant sleeper cars.
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Why isnt that being built.... thats A M A Z I N G!!!
LINKY to their concepts website... that particular car is the Aero-X.
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
Why couldn't this have happened to Vauxhall? Saab are waaaaaaay better
still running my mum's "H" plate Saab 9000, solid, comfortable... love it.....
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That is sad
Its a real shame because SAAB were on the Brink of releasing about 3 new models, all od them looked really stylish and a return to true SAAB form (A
bit like what Citreon did about 5 years ago), A chinese company has bought all the models but not the Brand itself so it has to go (I was hoping FIAT
or Toyota might buy it).
Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most sucessful brand so they wouldn't shut them down, SAAB had slightly limited apeal which was one of the
great things about them, as someone else said, people don't think your a knob like they would if you spent the same money on a Merc or BMW.
I used to really want a Rover, then they went bust, then I wanted a SAAB, now this, at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, Should Lutz and GM be
worried?
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Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most sucessful brand
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Why isnt that being built.... thats A M A Z I N G!!!
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Meh.... mediocre dentists cars......
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Originally posted by morcus
... at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, should Lutz and GM be worried?
Have you seen the CTS Coupe? I'm fairly sure they won't make it in RHD and that if they did it would cost to much to buy and far to much to
run, but I truely think its beautiful (Even with the Yanks refusal to use the acute on Coupé).
I did mention I used to want a Rover, surely thats a bigger crime?
It's not so much the styling (although not to my taste)... its all the cheap materials and poor build quality that traditionally surround
Caddy's that bothers me!
I'd take a Rover 75 / MG ZT over it any day of the week!
But we're all different... (thankfully!).
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Originally posted by morcus
Its a real shame because SAAB were on the Brink of releasing about 3 new models, all od them looked really stylish and a return to true SAAB form (A bit like what Citreon did about 5 years ago), A chinese company has bought all the models but not the Brand itself so it has to go (I was hoping FIAT or Toyota might buy it).
Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most successful brand so they wouldn't shut them down, SAAB had slightly limited appeal which was one of the great things about them, as someone else said, people don't think your a knob like they would if you spent the same money on a Merc or BMW.
I used to really want a Rover, then they went bust, then I wanted a SAAB, now this, at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, Should Lutz and GM be worried?
I agree with you with regards to the engineering quality after GM took over, but I stand by my claims that the last generation of SAABs were styled
wrong and also the dropping of Hatchbacks to make the cars more 'German' was one of the worst things GM ever did to SAAB.
I am still a little surprised noone wanted to buy the SAAB name as to my mind it has a good reputation, much as a hate to admit it, I think one of the
German companies could have turned the brand around quite easilly (That said, BMW didn't put much effort into Rover).
For the record I wanted the 75 with the mustang engine.
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Originally posted by morcus
I agree with you with regards to the engineering quality after GM took over, but I stand by my claims that the last generation of SAABs were styled wrong and also the dropping of Hatchbacks to make the cars more 'German' was one of the worst things GM ever did to SAAB.
I am still a little surprised noone wanted to buy the SAAB name as to my mind it has a good reputation, much as a hate to admit it, I think one of the German companies could have turned the brand around quite easilly (That said, BMW didn't put much effort into Rover).
For the record I wanted the 75 with the mustang engine.
Like Mookaloid ^^ I have a 9-5 2.3 turbo estate and it's a great mile muncher plus sh*ts on most things when you want it to and it tows a treat.
Tegwin is absolutely correct that it's perceived as a pretty grey car but that works in it's favour (prob. too much) in that second-hand
values aren't a true reflection of how good the whole package is - climate, cruise, leather, great sound systems etc. etc.
My 9000 did 130k without anything major and this one has had 2xDI packs plus a turbo but nothing else so far @ 111k.
Probably not a bad time to buy a 9-5 as there are lots about and numerous specialists to keep them going (unlike Rover where the dealers were all
pretty much second-rate and demotivated).
Cheers, Pewe
Not wrong there, my dad went to see our local rover dealler not long before they went away to see the city Rover, the dealer told him straight that
the car was poo (He didn't use those exact words) and that they'd be a Jag deallership in a month so they wouldn't service it. I agree
about the mustang engine aswell, but I think they should have gone futher and had RWD as an option with other engines or even made the whole MG ZT
range RWD.
I always got the impression that SAAB's image thing was a result of SAAB being a car popular with creative types in the past and their customer
base aging.
Quickly going back to Caddies if I may (I'm sorry) The BLS (A Caddy built for europe, and the car I'm planning to buy in a few years time
when I'm due a swap) was built in Trollhattan on the same production lines as the 9-3, so they can't all be badly built.
I've just heard that Spyker have put forward another offer and that we'll know by the end of today.
I've just heard that Spyker have put forward another offer and that we'll know by the end of today.
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Originally posted by morcus
For the record I wanted the 75 with the mustang engine.
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Originally posted by morcus
For the record I wanted the 75 with the mustang engine.
I own a T7 Saab Coupe -
It has a lot of artermarket goodies and is sporting near enough 300bhp.
It still has the original clutch & head gasket
And will leave most things sitting wondering what the old boy with the C&A jumper was driving.
Mine isnt the Swedish Saab but a GM 2001 model (Vectra) so not bulletproof as per old Saab but still very fast and strong.
A T5 engine will tune happily to 450bhp on stock crank/rods & pistons.
A T7 to 300bhp on stock internals, thats from the original 205bhp mine was.
Styling isnt for all but I like to be different, I dare say like most Saab owners.
Ive never bought another same make car till I tried a Saab !
Its a disgrace they are going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHWWBGgJPas&feature=fvw
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I own a T7 Saab Coupe -
I like that 
Apparantly the new 9-5 is going in to production but GM haven't decide which brand it will go under and the short list all already have a car based on the same platform. If it does make it, Buick and Vauxhall seem to be the main options but I can't see vauxhall selling a second car based on the insignia unless the new 9-5 is significantly bigger.
3" Full Abbott Racing System +CAT
2.5" Streetgear Turbo Intake Pipe
Streetgear.se Intercooler
Speedparts.se Induction kit
Forge Wastegate
3.5 Bar FPR
Abbott Rack Clamp
Homegrown ECU flash - Courtesy of Mackan@The EcuProject
SAS 25mm Rear ARB
Front Disc Upgrades/RedStuff Pads
Koni Coils / Gas Dampers
Ive spent a fortune on it, and its still does 30mpg.
Carries a few niggles but has been very reliable.
I will be hanging onto this one another few years yet, like all Saabs I think they start to look better with age - I love them
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