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Tin top car dealer and the DVLA
FFTS - 15/2/10 at 09:09 AM

I have a friend who started buying the odd tin top for himself and getting bored and selling again. He's kind of started to make an art of it and has now moved on about 5 cars in the last 10 months. He's worried now that as he registered each one in his own name will there be any come back being classed as a dealer?

Anyone got inside or FACTUAL knowledge of the DVLA?
Is there a system that will flag him?
Any rules on how many cars moved before being classed as a dealer?
Anything else he should know?

Please... no guesses as we can do those and they may cloud the factual knowledge answers.

Ta.


Humbug - 15/2/10 at 09:42 AM

I know you didn't want guesses, but common sense (OK, I know that as far as DVLA is concerned that might be unlikely!) says that if he only onws one of the "traded" cars at a time then sells it before getting the next one, he is unlikely to be seen as a trader. If he buys in several at a time as "stock". Again, if he is registering the cars in his own name rather than using the Trader section of the V5, IMHO it is unlikely he will be seen as a trader


x_flow57 - 15/2/10 at 10:37 AM

I can't see there being any problem with the DVLA, it's none of there business weather you are a trader or not.

The Tax/VAT man is a different story though.

Nick


l0rd - 15/2/10 at 10:49 AM

You said no assumptions, or guesses

I heard though, that it is auto trader that has some issues with that.

Last year, one of my learners, had changed 5 cars in about 6 months. He always advertised the car back on autotrader and he got an email saying that he could be classed as a trader.

But that was Autotrader.


matt_gsxr - 15/2/10 at 11:23 AM

8 for insurance purposes according to this:

link

Is "he" making a profit on them or not?


Matt


FFTS - 15/2/10 at 12:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
8 for insurance purposes according to this:

link

Is "he" making a profit on them or not?


Matt


Some.. I guess he has a knack at finding a bargain and finding the right buyer.


Ninehigh - 17/2/10 at 09:34 AM

The tax man might want to know about the profit being made, but someone who sells one of something a week I wouldn't regard them as a very good trader.

Then again if he is that good maybe he should register!


smart51 - 17/2/10 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
someone who sells one of something a week I wouldn't regard them as a very good trader.



If you're a rolls royce dealer, one a week might be good business. If your business is called bangernomics and you make £50 on each one, you might want to shift a few more than that.


Ninehigh - 17/2/10 at 12:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
someone who sells one of something a week I wouldn't regard them as a very good trader.



If you're a rolls royce dealer, one a week might be good business. If your business is called bangernomics and you make £50 on each one, you might want to shift a few more than that.


True but then something like that is the exception, along with the guy who sells 2 tons of Columbian Excitement Powder once a week!