On my way to work today i got made to pull over by the police for a census.

Pulls over and a woman askes simply where have you come from and where are you heading. simple i think. she walks off and this copper apears at my window.

Cop: You know why im here?

Me: Errr no.

Cop: you were on your phone as you pulled in.

Me: errr no.

Cop: yes you were both me and my partner saw you.

Me: well you are both wrong.

Cop: can i see your phone.

Cop walks off wi phone then comes back and hands it over.

He then goes over car looking for fauls as he has realised he was full of sh*t and i wasnt in the wrong.

I get to go with no apoligy and wishing id ran over the w@nkers foot as i left.

The copper was a right arrogant tw@t which didnt help. Just pisses me off.

Rant over.

good old west yorkshire police.

sock cuckers.

yep, you do get them like that. they chance it in the hope that you wont fight them.
what to do is get in touch with the head office and file a formal complaint. unfortunately you cant do much without badge numbers, ir at least a car number

One o'clock in the morning I was driving home and some wide boy pratt comes shooting up behind me flashing lights and trying to get me to speed up.
I was too tired to react so ignored him, then at the end of the town when road went dual carriageway he pulled along side me, I ignored him. The the c*** flashs his blue lights, I look and he tells me to wind the window down, he says" it's 30 through Dinas Sir, not 32".
Any respect I had evaporated that night.
I know some nice coppers, but I have also met the type this thread is about!

Do your bit for civil liberties
Road side census --- Just say no

Defiantly file a complaint. Get your local MP on their case as well. If no-one challenges them, they'll keep doing it. If they get a hard time, they might ease off a bit.

Surely the boss would know which of his police force was helping with the census? Nice little police lineup (quite literally ). My understanding is that the census police aren't working in their official capacity anyway on the basis that that would be a complete waste of tax payers money IE they should be doing more useful things like nicking crimbos.

I had an argument with the police doing the census about why the hell they were forcing cars to stop to help with a traffic survey. Apparantly, they're not telling you to stop in an official capacity (they are asking you to in an off-duty capacity), but of course if you did not stop they could suddenly decide that in your case they were trying to stop you in an offical capacity and you refused in which case you'ld get done for it.

Personally I think the whole thing sucks. They have no right to stop people for that purpose.

What legal powers did he use to take your phone? If he looked at the content on it without sufficient cause then he has breached your right to privacy. And, if he has looked on it then evidence he had found would not be evidentially secure and likely inadmissable in court - obviously a jobsworth!

you legally have to stop for the census but you can refuse to complete the census.

thats as far as im aware.

dave j

he asked is he could see the phone. i was in a rush to get to work so gave him it. he checked the call log on the phone and saw nothing for today. it was 7.35am.

Him checking the phone didnt bother me as it proved i wasnt using it. also the phone was in a phone sock in my pocket which i have to remove my seatbelt to get at lol.

It was just the coppers attitude that pissed me off more than any thing. The way he tried to talk down at me like he was better.

Love these roadside censuses (if that's what the plural is). Couple of years ago we got caught in a massive tailback going to work in Norwich, probably took 20-25 minutes to get from the back of the queue to the census point, same question, where from where to, by the time I'd got to work it had cost me 40 minutes. As we left the census point they gave us a flyer, 'Improving your journey to work' and so on
Irony they don't do

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i would be so angry if they wasted my time for that crap

If you followed my other threads I use a camera recorder in my car called a T-eye which has saved me from 2 tickets so far.
If you had one in your car, you could have complained about the accusation against you and got the ar*ehole disiplined.

No need for arrogance IMO. Why, I've even let 2 people off in as many weeks for using their phones. They seemed decent enough and they coughed straight away. Didn't seem any more of a reason IMO (again) to press the matter.
See, there are some good ones of us still around.

Definitly make an official complaint. If you don't do anything they'll just keep doing it in the hpe of 'illegally' getting some one to confess to minor crimes (Thats why they try the 'you know why I've stopped you.)

Ever tried to explain to a Policeman that your tee total?

There are some good cops out there, but the phone thing is getting bad i must see about 10 people while on the bike per day. u can always tell the ones on the phone as they drift across the lane

i got pulled on Sunday for illegal number plate on the bike. as a few of us were on a ride out £60 fine! only thing is the date on the ticket is wrong i know i wasn't in Aylesbury on Saturday i was working

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Love these roadside censuses (if that's what the plural is). Couple of years ago we got caught in a massive tailback going to work in Norwich, probably took 20-25 minutes to get from the back of the queue to the census point

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No need for arrogance IMO. Why, I've even let 2 people off in as many weeks for using their phones. They seemed decent enough and they coughed straight away. Didn't seem any more of a reason IMO (again) to press the matter.
See, there are some good ones of us still around.

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I once got pulled for a similar "routine road check" and an officious young WPC asked me where I was going. I answered "Kilmarnock" which is where I live. She then asked my passenger where he was going and he answered, "funnily enough, the same place as him!" at which point we both started laughing! She was less than impressed!

We were still roaring with laughter as we drove away!

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I have seen you funnily enough

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Thats why they try the 'you know why I've stopped you.)

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i remember that, think i was just about to shoot off down the slip road, set the cruise control to 70,

Joe

ps you coming oit tomorrow ?

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Originally posted by mistergrumpy
No need for arrogance IMO. Why, I've even let 2 people off in as many weeks for using their phones. They seemed decent enough and they coughed straight away. Didn't seem any more of a reason IMO (again) to press the matter.
See, there are some good ones of us still around.

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Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I have seen you funnily enough

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Thats why they try the 'you know why I've stopped you.)

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No it isn't.

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Martin. I wasn't saying you were being arrogant mate, I meant there's no need for the police officer to have been like that. Sorry if it read wrong.
Joel. I still don't believe it's said to try and trap people. It's more of an attitude gauge to see what the person is going to be like and affects how they're going to be dealt with i.e. strictly by the book or nice and casual.

Whatever. There's still no need for rudeness at the outset I don't believe.

You're right, I'm never rude.
I let the officer have his say, told him he was being recorded etc from the outset, defended myself, backed up with my camera/gps proof and wait!
Also answered questions to why I record my driving. It dates back to when I had an accident in 2005 and was attacked in my car and lost to the lying tw*t in court.

I'm still unsure as to which of us you've 'seen'?

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Originally posted by mistergrumpy
Joel. I still don't believe it's said to try and trap people. It's more of an attitude gauge to see what the person is going to be like and affects how they're going to be dealt with i.e. strictly by the book or nice and casual.

Whatever. There's still no need for rudeness at the outset I don't believe.

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I'm not a big fan of traffic cops based on my limited (thankfully) experience of dealing with them but credit where credit is due, I know of a guy who got away with possible jail time due to having the right attitude.

He got clocked at 127MPH on a dual carriageway just after coming out of a Fiat garage, having finally got his Fiat Marea turbo diesel to run properly. He was so pleased with himself when he got in the police car that the officers were a bit perplexed. When he explained why he was happy after 9 months of hassle from Fiat they took pity on him and called it 99MPH and he got a FP instead of a definite ban and possible jail sentence!

My experience is not so good. I got a ticket for jumping a supposed red light at some road works but it was just badly timed lights and they assumed a green light at their end meant I jumped a red light at my end. Too young at the time to contest the injustice and by the time I decided to do so the road works were gone!

I also got pulled by local police after they were asked to be on the lookout for a very fast BL Mini 1275GT which had allegedly outrun a BMW 5 series traffic car over a 15 mile country road section a few weeks earlier... I don't know why they thought it was me, surely there is more than one red mini in the area. I just got a few laughs from the local PC's and a few unkind comments about the traffic cops and asked to hand in my documents for inspection.

dont think ive met a bad cop yet, out of probably 10 incidents.

But then, i did once say thanks for a parking ticket, so maybe im just delusionally positive in general

I've been pulled over quite a lot for no reason.
Once the guy told me it was because I was wearing a hat (no joke!).
Then once they nearly kicked off for my numberplate being wrong (said it came out as a micra van). After about ten minutes arguing I got them to reenter and lo and behold it was correct...
At the same time not all of them are like that at all. I'd say about 50/50 bad and ok.

It's Welderman I've seen. I'm on lates at work and only got 3 wheels at the moment so I've less than no chance of getting out