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scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:00 PM

I've decided to buy a completed car to play with over the autum months...

Identified three potentials.

1995 Westfield Red-Top on Twin 45's at £6.5k. Nice clean looking car. Q plate.
2000 Westfield 1640 CVH on Twin 40's at £5.5k. Beautiful condition. Q plate.
2001 Quantum Xtreme 1.8 Zetec on Twin 40's at £5.5k. Really good order. Age-related plate.

I've owned an Xtreme before with a Pinto engine. Loved everything (particularly the kit quality) except the engine. The 1.8 Zetec in the potential car is pushing out around 150bhp - 40 more than the old Pinto I had.

The Red-Top Westie is about 165bhp. Easily upgradeable to the 200 mark, but is it a lot heavier than the other two?

The CVH has Kent 22 cams and should be around the 130bhp mark. I know bugger all about this engine!

I'm not going to fall into the trap of changing an engine again as I want to drive-it... not trip over parts destined for eBay! I may upgrade the existing engines though if there is more to be squeezed out at reasonable cost. What do the masses think is likely for improving each engine on a budget of say £1000.

Thanks in advance!


scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:01 PM

... and which car would we prefer (on my admittedly limited information)!


scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:07 PM

CVH Westie



scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:08 PM

Red-Top Westie...



scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:09 PM

Xtreme...



MK9R - 24/8/10 at 04:09 PM

red top


loggyboy - 24/8/10 at 04:12 PM

Redtop is the best engine there, and I would expect the westy to the better of the 2 chassis'. Its better looking too.


big_wasa - 24/8/10 at 04:13 PM

I would have the extreme and a 2L would be an easy straight swap if you wanted a bit more.

Westie with a red top will be quicker and esier to resell if you dont take it to bits


scootz - 24/8/10 at 04:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
... if you dont take it to bits


It's not me... I just park cars up in the garage, go to bed, then when I wake up it's in pieces!

Must be the garage pixies!


mookaloid - 24/8/10 at 04:28 PM

Red top


mackei23b - 24/8/10 at 04:31 PM

Red Top!


TimC - 24/8/10 at 04:40 PM

The red top, not least because of the TSW EVOs. When I was 17, they were all I wanted in life...


Bluemoon - 24/8/10 at 04:43 PM

redtop should be simple to re-sell as well. But depends on quality of build..

[Edited on 24/8/10 by Bluemoon]


Miks15 - 24/8/10 at 04:59 PM

that red top westie looks better than the extreme IMO and better engine


interestedparty - 24/8/10 at 05:09 PM

The Westfield with redtop does looks the best of that bunch, but be sure to try sitting in one unless you are relatively slim and not too tall. It doesn't say it's a wide body, so assume it's narrow.


zilspeed - 24/8/10 at 05:15 PM

None of those.

John Lowe's Fisher Fury ;-) @ £5,295

Fisher Fury SVA & Regd 2002. EKR 838T.
Built mostly by Fisher. 1997 - 2002. Black gel coat. MOT 21/4/11. Taxed April - Sept, then Sorned. Fully road legal.

2Lt Ford Pinto Fisher flowed engine, 170bhp, twin DCOE 45s, Piper 285 cam. Vernier cam pulley, Luminition ignition kit. Magnacor leads, Omex Speed System rev limiter. RS2000 alloy sump and bell housing.
Complete professional rebuild 2006 Glenburgie Subaru. Fisher Stainless steel manifold and exhaust. New Capri radiator, Thermostatic electric fan.
Tuned annually by Ricky Gauld.

Type 9 gearbox, 3.89 English diff with Quaife ATB. Race clutch.

Willood 4 pot calipers on front, Mintex 1144pads, Recon Sierra rear discs and pads. Rally Design alloy front hubs/discs and Rally Design Escort 2.4 quick steering rack,. Fisher adjustable pedal box. Mountford steering wheel. New MG midget 6 gal fuel tank.

Fully corner weighted and set up for Speed events by Graeme White Racing with Fisher race weight springs. Some other springs available. Weight just under 600kg. Capable of Sub 50secs Forestburn Hillclimb, & sub 50 secs Doune & quicker with lighter better driver!!.

3 sets 6” wheels: Performance Minilites and RS 2000, 13” wheels, with worn Avon ACB 10s; plus 14” Wolfrace wheels with worn Yoko AO 48s + 4 good Avon standard road tyres.

Driver 4 point harness, passenger 3 point. Light weight seats fitted. Lowered floor suitable for up to 6ft 3in driver.

Converted to Spyder 2010 but screen frame, full wet weather gear/wipers/all trim/ heater/Cobra Roadster seats etc available . Plus all originals of replaced parts.



[Edited on 24/8/10 by zilspeed]


scootz - 24/8/10 at 05:27 PM

Oooh... interesting! Any more pic Zil!?


zilspeed - 24/8/10 at 05:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Oooh... interesting! Any more pic Zil!?


Just do a search under John Lowe on the various galleries for Scottish hills and sprints.

Some can be found here


SPYDER - 24/8/10 at 06:00 PM

Of the three cars in the original post I would have the Red top without question.
I ran two red top Calibras for a total of over 100k miles without any mechanical problems.
And the Extreme looks awful IMHO.
That Fury looks a good bet though.
Geoff.


TimC - 24/8/10 at 06:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by interestedparty
The Westfield with redtop does looks the best of that bunch, but be sure to try sitting in one unless you are relatively slim and not too tall. It doesn't say it's a wide body, so assume it's narrow.


Its wide.


RichardK - 24/8/10 at 06:19 PM

Extreme and 2l engine change when you get bored next year.

Cheers

Rich


LBMEFM - 24/8/10 at 08:11 PM

Red top


macspeedy - 24/8/10 at 08:13 PM

mine you know you want too


Xtreme Kermit - 24/8/10 at 08:26 PM

As I am very impressed with my Xtreme, I would say go with that one.

However, the idea of a nice red top in a westie is very appealing too...

Does that help?


scootz - 24/8/10 at 08:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Xtreme Kermit
Does that help?


Ha Ha... NO!

I agree with you on your assessment... having had a Quantum (and a few other Kit Cars) I'd say that it's a very under-rated kit. A wee bit heavier than some other 7-a-likes, but I think if all weight figures quoted were not just optimistic guesses then the gap wouldn't be by much! The engineering is also very interesting and the handling excellent.

That said... the Red-Top's relatively cheap 'tuneability' keeps it hot in the running!

Oh, I don't know!


scootz - 24/8/10 at 08:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by macspeedy
mine you know you want too


Sorry Mac... lovely car you have there, but I want a car-engine I'm afraid!


mcerd1 - 25/8/10 at 08:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Oh, I don't know!

just buy all of them then


scootz - 25/8/10 at 12:28 PM

All rather irrelevant now... Oops!


mcerd1 - 25/8/10 at 12:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz

Oops!


does that mean you've done something expencive ?

[Edited on 25/8/2010 by mcerd1]


scootz - 25/8/10 at 12:56 PM

Might have...


mcerd1 - 25/8/10 at 02:10 PM

so when does it arrive then


Fozzie - 25/8/10 at 02:30 PM

Scootzie.....what have you gone and done now?

C'mon...spill the beans! ............

Fozzie


scootz - 25/8/10 at 02:52 PM



It would appear that I've struck a deal for it...


Fozzie - 25/8/10 at 05:25 PM

Blimmin' 'eck ...them thar beans are well and truly spilt

Here's to having fun!

Fozzie


scootz - 25/8/10 at 07:11 PM

Indeed... hurrah!

Pick it up tomorrow!