Need to tap the ultimate fountain of knowledge that is LCB.
Off to have a look at a Striker tomorrow with Norfolkluego Snr - Anything we should be aware of to look out for? I know his Luego inside out now, but
have no knowledge of Strikers.
Any help greatfully received...
[Edited on 29/9/10 by Norfolkluegojnr]
[Edited on 29/9/10 by Norfolkluegojnr]
Hmm, generally cracking little cars - I had a live axle X-Flow powered car for a while and enjoyed it very much; very light indeed.
Not too much to say as a warning. The usual kit car checks for condition and construction should be applied.
Avoid the low-rent MKIII with outboard shocks. I also prefer the cut-down Escort or Capri uprights to the Sierra alternatives. I'm not a huge
fan of Sylva's live axle design (bounce bounce bounce) but it's good enough on smooth surfaces.
How old is the kit/car?
Edit: fairly critical typo there....
[Edited on 29/9/10 by TimC]
Hi
Big subject that..
There's basically three different variants, but all on the same basic theme.
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, live axle
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, IRS.
Mk3 - outboard front shocks, live axle.
The Mk2's are by far the most common, both variants have been built be Jeremy (Sylva) and RAW (current owners of the design)
The MK3's are quite rare (about half a dozen known to exist - one of which I co-own with my brother)
Theoretically there is a striker Mk4, which had full bodywork - but this is normally known as the Pheonix, and folk with them normally refer to them
as such.
So assuming you'll end up looking at a Mk2..
Build quality.
Chassis corrosion.
Quality of the components.
(i.e. just like any other spaceframe built car!)
My preference would be for a pre 2000 (so no cat rqd for motorsport), preferably a live axle (if you're still going to tackle speed events) and
if was 4age powered better still.
If it's a 5 speed, ask who's box - as the words Quaife or BGH are nice to hear, check on gearing too..
Back axle ratio handy to know as often overgeared so haggle a bit if it's a 3.9..
Bodwork comes in a couple of variants the earlier cars have a one piece nose and bonnet moulding - which is a bit of a pain in the behind.
Later ones seperate nose and bonnet.
The rear tub and arch's likewise can come in either one piece or with seperate wings - though this was a much later change.
Also the later bodywork is available in different weights, but the thin race spec stuff would get trashed on the road really quick!
New bodywork (and all the other bits) available from RAW though.
Should have a rear roll hoop c/w diagonal brace and the later ones are rear braced, earlier ones not - but easily fixed (Cougar Engineering, Redditch,
also does an ace full cage)
In short there's nothing really that different where a Striker is concerned other that they're smaller and lighter than most of their rivals
- the build quality of individual cars is then very much down to the bloke who nailed it together and you'll have to take that into consideration
when looking at it.
If you've got a link to the add it might give me a bit more to go on?
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Avoid the low-rent MKII with outboard shocks.
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
A) it's the Mk3 with outboard front suspension.
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
b) They're very rare indeed.
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
c) They go very well..
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Originally posted by TimC
[So do most lightweight sportscars, but they are still inferior to the MkII IMHO.
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
The MK3's are quite rare (about half a dozen known to exist - one of which I co-own with my brother)
Thanks guys.
Pretty sure going on your info its a MKII, definately inboard suspension, seperate nose cone and body, and a braced rear roll hoop (i assume you mean
the diagonals going to the rear of the chassis?
linky for ad, although pics are poor.
linky
i'm not that knowledgeable about the CVH, but we did a zetec conversion on the Luego, so happy enough to change if necessary.
I'm 6ft though, will i fit ok?
P.S. Maestro turbo - so wrong but so right.
Make sure you can fit in a striker. They are pretty small and there is nothing clever about buying a car in which you don't fit!
The windscreen design is very different, and either you will love it or hate it.
Regarding the off topic question of when is a Phoenix a Mk4 Striker. I think mk4 striker came first, and have always assumed that once the project
went to STM (stuart taylor motorsport) that it became phoenix (possibly same time are the back end of the bodywork was rounded off).
I hope the weather is good for you,
Matt
i'm a good 6ft and fit no problems, infact my seat could go back an inch or so if needed.
its the width that could be the problem if you are on the large side. saying that, i took a 18 stone passenger out in mine and although it was a
squeeze he fitted in
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Originally posted by bigfoot4616according to the original paperwork that came with my car, mine started out as a MK3. at some time it has been converted to inboard suspension
im only 13st so hopefully, weight not an issue.
ok. totally different subject, but opinions on the CVH?
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Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
Thanks guys.
Pretty sure going on your info its a MKII, definately inboard suspension, seperate nose cone and body, and a braced rear roll hoop (i assume you mean the diagonals going to the rear of the chassis?
linky for ad, although pics are poor. linky
i'm not that knowledgeable about the CVH, but we did a zetec conversion on the Luego, so happy enough to change if necessary.
I'm 6ft though, will i fit ok?
P.S. Maestro turbo - so wrong but so right.
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
Thanks guys.
Pretty sure going on your info its a MKII, definately inboard suspension, seperate nose cone and body, and a braced rear roll hoop (i assume you mean the diagonals going to the rear of the chassis?
linky for ad, although pics are poor. linky
i'm not that knowledgeable about the CVH, but we did a zetec conversion on the Luego, so happy enough to change if necessary.
I'm 6ft though, will i fit ok?
P.S. Maestro turbo - so wrong but so right.
quote:
Originally posted by norfolkluego
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
Thanks guys.
Pretty sure going on your info its a MKII, definately inboard suspension, seperate nose cone and body, and a braced rear roll hoop (i assume you mean the diagonals going to the rear of the chassis?
linky for ad, although pics are poor. linky
i'm not that knowledgeable about the CVH, but we did a zetec conversion on the Luego, so happy enough to change if necessary.
I'm 6ft though, will i fit ok?
P.S. Maestro turbo - so wrong but so right.
I'm 5-7, I'll fit fine, just buy the damn thing
The Striker was pretty much designed for the CVH. Here's the original page from Sylva on the engine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020824000500/www.sylva.co.uk/cvh.html
The 4age is a common engine for newer Strikers.
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
Thanks guys.
Pretty sure going on your info its a MKII, definately inboard suspension, seperate nose cone and body, and a braced rear roll hoop (i assume you mean the diagonals going to the rear of the chassis?
linky for ad, although pics are poor. linky
i'm not that knowledgeable about the CVH, but we did a zetec conversion on the Luego, so happy enough to change if necessary.
I'm 6ft though, will i fit ok?
P.S. Maestro turbo - so wrong but so right.
Hi
Yup definatly a Mk2 (the Mk3 was 88/89 only) and you've got the scruitineer friendly, rear braced, roll hoop, which is handy - you are planning on speed eventing this arn't you?
Dunno about a CVH, can't think why not - but not a normal Zetec as that would put you in 2B.. you'll be wanting a Zetec SE surely
6ft tall = fine, 6ft wide =
I'm of the 'slightly wide in the beam' dimensions, as long as i've nothing in my pockets (and race boots, or small trainers on as small footwell) no problem!
Hi,
Good luck with viewing the Striker.
Regarding things to check.
The Fibreglass cracks often around the roll loop. This often looks taty (as on mine) if it has not happened yet, expect it to. There is a photo on the
ad but I cant see it properly.
Also the inboard upper wishbones on the front. The preferred type are the roller bearing typ not rubber bush. The rollers offer a better more positive
set up.
My limited experience of the CVH is they are a well loved engine that has a lot of support and spares available although I do feel that the Striker
has a very capable chassis and the car may feel underpowered slightly. Im certainly starting to feel that with my 150BHP 4age.
Good luck and that seems a very good price for a Striker, I searched for a while for one and bought the first one I looked at!
HTH
thanks ian, useful link.
as far as the CVH goes it needs regular oil changes with good quality oil as they seem to 'gum up' pretty quickly
Cracking car the Striker i really like them, just abit too small for me...
i'm 6'3 and 14 stone and i fit in mine!
quote:
Originally posted by JimSpencer
Hi
Big subject that..
There's basically three different variants, but all on the same basic theme.
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, live axle
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, IRS.
Mk3 - outboard front shocks, live axle.
quote:
Regarding the off topic question of when is a Phoenix a Mk4 Striker. I think mk4 striker came first, and have always assumed that once the project went to STM (stuart taylor motorsport) that it became phoenix (possibly same time are the back end of the bodywork was rounded off).
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by JimSpencer
Hi
Big subject that..
There's basically three different variants, but all on the same basic theme.
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, live axle
Mk2 - inboard front shocks, IRS.
Mk3 - outboard front shocks, live axle.
Sylva never made an IRS Striker did they? I thought Raw Engineering were the ones that designed the IRS when they took over development?
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Originally posted by jeffw
The Phoenix, with the rounded rear end, is neither a Mk4 Striker or a STM invention. The bodywork was done by Sylva and was called a Phoenix by them. I have a Sylva Phoenix (which started life as a Striker but that doesn't really matter).
thanks guys, i'll let you know how i get on.
Come on then tell everybody about it
Ok Then....
I Bought it!
Haggled a bit, but ended with what we all agreed was a good price.
Pics to follow, probably next week sometime...
Chuffed
Pictures?
Couple of threads below this one dad.