Board logo

Address from reg no.?
Richard Quinn - 10/10/10 at 09:55 PM

Is there any way joe public could possibly get an address (even partial) from a registration mark?
I have a feeling I already know the answer to this but it's got to be worth an ask.


mangogrooveworkshop - 10/10/10 at 10:00 PM

http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/data/relinfo/howtorequest.aspx

or a

bent copper or start a private clamping firm

The DVLA charges £2.50 for each piece of data, collecting a £9 million windfall for the Government since 2002.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-424553/DVLA-selling-personal-details-cowboy-clamping-firms.html#ixzz11zpCVvE9

[Edited on 10-10-10 by mangogrooveworkshop]

[Edited on 10-10-10 by mangogrooveworkshop]


Thinking about it - 10/10/10 at 10:06 PM

Quote from direct.gov.uk

How to find out about the keeper details of another vehicle

You can only get the name and address of the registered keeper of another vehicle if you can demonstrate ‘reasonable cause’ for needing the information. The DVLA must consider the reasons why you need the information and how it will be used before it is given to you.

It is a criminal offence under Section 55 of the Data Protection Act 1998 to unlawfully obtain or sell personal information. Unlimited fines in the Crown Court (or to a maximum of £5,000 in the Magistrates Court) exist as penalties in respect of these offences.

To check on the circumstances in which you can ask for information, what evidence you need to provide and what information will be supplied, go to:


Richard Quinn - 10/10/10 at 10:11 PM

It is for purely legitimate reasons - I'd like to speak to the person who scraped their car down the door, rear quarter and bumper of my daughter's car while it was parked and just drove off.
Because it was on a retail park car park, the police aren't too interested but as my daughter works there, security have been through the CCTV footage and, although they have no footage of it actually happening, they have given her a make, model, colour (matches the paint left on her car) and reg mark.


Richard Quinn - 10/10/10 at 10:14 PM

So, it would appear that my daughter has "legitimate cause"


MakeEverything - 10/10/10 at 10:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
So, it would appear that my daughter has "legitimate cause"


but no evidence......


blakep82 - 10/10/10 at 10:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
So, it would appear that my daughter has "legitimate cause"


but no evidence......


perhaps not, but the condition of the other car would form the evidence?


l0rd - 10/10/10 at 10:34 PM

if you get the police to identify and match the colors.


mad4x4 - 11/10/10 at 06:14 AM

Why not show the police the evidence and let them go speak with the person.

You have done the donkey work.


Richard Quinn - 11/10/10 at 06:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Why not show the police the evidence and let them go speak with the person.

You have done the donkey work.


Hmmmm. Bit fed up waiting to be honest! We've given them the reg mark, colour, make and model but they are not that interested.


Dopdog - 11/10/10 at 06:28 AM

I would chase them and find them. I had the same done to me, get what you can.


balidey - 11/10/10 at 06:56 AM

Would your insurance company be any help? Presumably you want to get it repaired through insurance and make, model, reg may be enough for them to find details and persue a claim? Worth a phone call


l0rd - 11/10/10 at 07:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by balidey
Would your insurance company be any help? Presumably you want to get it repaired through insurance and make, model, reg may be enough for them to find details and persue a claim? Worth a phone call


+1

And also sent a complaint letter to your local MP and explain the situation with the police


mcerd1 - 11/10/10 at 07:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
if you get the police to identify and match the colors.

not much chance of that - that costs them money


Andi - 11/10/10 at 01:01 PM

Failing to stop is a crime.
I should know as I went to court earlier this year as a winess against such an incident.


bmseven - 11/10/10 at 03:49 PM

How does this work?

http://www.findvehicleowner.co.uk/vehicle_tracing.asp


mistergrumpy - 11/10/10 at 05:29 PM

Failing to stop IS a crime but you need proof not just a hunch. Sure, you could explain things and provide a registration mark but what do you do if they then deny it? That's it, there's nothing more that could be reasonably done. There's no evidence.
You can't forcibly take paint swabs off the other car and I suspect in this climate, the police wouldn't get authority from the bosses anyway to analyse the paint samples because they have to be sent to a private company who charge an arm and a leg and there's hardly any pot left let alone money in the pot.
You are only left with civil action, working on the balance of probabilities.


omega 24 v6 - 11/10/10 at 06:17 PM

Here we go again.
The police can and will use any evidence such as reg no, photo of your car speeding, parking ticket mis printed with the wrong reg etc etc ( including video evidence , whether or not you deny it was you) if it is in their interests to remove money from your wallet. FACT

On the other hand you hand them evidence on a plate ( which may or may not be denied but they won't even try to get in touch with the other party) of a crime that MAY have been committed against you, and say that as an honest helpfull law abiding citizen you require their help in taking the matter farther and they just fob you off.
Its a bloody disgrace and that is all there is to it.
In the past 8 weeks we have tried to get the police to look at 3 incidents against our property and cars. On all occasions they have failed us and at no point have even called back or been in touch when they said they would.
" You have insurance don't you "
They wonder why no one is on their side anymore.


mistergrumpy - 11/10/10 at 06:49 PM

quote:

security have been through the CCTV footage and, although they have no footage of it actually happening



No footage = No evidence. It's that simple in this case.
Security guards have just supplied make, model, reg of a car that has the same colour of the scraped paint.
Once you have experience of how the criminal justice system works you start to realise these things.


Richard Quinn - 11/10/10 at 07:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
quote:

security have been through the CCTV footage and, although they have no footage of it actually happening



No footage = No evidence. It's that simple in this case.
Security guards have just supplied make, model, reg of a car that has the same colour of the scraped paint.
Once you have experience of how the criminal justice system works you start to realise these things.

I appreciate that bit but surely a car of the corresponding colour shown parked next to my daughter's car that now has matching damage on the same side as the damage on her car doesn't require Columbo.
I do appreciate the constraints that the police forces are working under. Make it easier for me to get the details that I need and I'll help you out


rusty nuts - 11/10/10 at 07:56 PM

Is it worth asking the CCTV operators if they have seen the same car on other occasions and if so when ? If regular it may be worth paying a visit, long shot I know but you could get a result


l0rd - 11/10/10 at 08:04 PM

act now, call the insurance.
If an investigation happens, he wont have time to rectify it.