naughty...............

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-MINI-VAN-LOGBOOK-V5C-/110606228849?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19c0a51d71

are you allowed to do that?

confused?

dave j

I think that RING RING! might be Mr Plod at his door asking for some help with their enquiries!

If the owner of these plates and documents had the rusty car to go with them and rebuilt or re shelled it ,would that not be ok?

Would it only require an mot?

illegal, against ebay rules, immoral, dodgy, sneaky, underhand, giving rise to fraud etc etc

reported to ebay...........

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Originally posted by Surrey Dave
If the owner of these plates and documents had the rusty car to go with them and rebuilt or re shelled it ,would that not be ok?

Would it only require an mot?

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I reported it as well, for good measure. I googled "Sunderland Mini Centre" and found this, amongst other things (I think it's the same person). Looks like a bit of a naughty boy!

Its legal to keep the chassis no etc, if you are re shelling, and transfer all the other components.

But I doubt he has all the other bits to go with it!

Its actually quite common in the classic car re-shelling game!!!! rightly or wrongly.

reported as that is sooo wrong...

^^ like r1_pete says it can be done legaly, but only if you keep the rest of the bits and do it with a new shell (can you even get a new mini van shell ? )

Well once you've scraped a car (scraped ffs) the vin no longer exists or something to that effect.

Oh btw the advert is still up

Bet he has'nt scraped it only disposed of the Body for "easy storage".......


Could be selling it for "Historic" purposes//// LOL

What if I dismantled a Sierra into a bucketful of bits and scrapped the shell but kept the V5, VIN and number plates and offered them for sale on here as a "donor" vehicle? How wrong would that be?

Selling the parts is not wrong, it is selling the paper work that is wrong.

A V5only would be no use anyway as donor.

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Originally posted by mad4x4
Selling the parts is not wrong, it is selling the paper work that is wrong.

A V5only would be no use anyway as donor.

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from DVLA:

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Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts
In order to retain the original registration mark:

•cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).

And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.

If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used a car must pass an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) and light goods vans must have a enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.

•motorcycles must use:
Unmodified frame (original or new) and two other major components from the original vehicle; forks, wheels and engine or gear box.

If a second-hand frame is used the vehicle must pass a motorcycle single vehicle approval (MSVA) test after which a 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.

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The VIn number may be on a plate, but nowadays it is always stamped into the shell somewhere, and has been for some years! Therefore the VIN number stays with the shell. He is selling the identity that would provide cover to re-identify a stolen vehicle!
In the past I have helped identify stolen Land-Rovers that have had their identitys changed.
It is very wrong !