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Team orders rule removed from F1
iank - 10/12/10 at 07:29 PM

Makes sense I suppose but still against the spirit of sport IMO.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9275796.stm


daniel mason - 10/12/10 at 07:33 PM

why dont they ban all radio contact? let the drivers decide when to pit,when to push and when to race on!


loggyboy - 10/12/10 at 07:34 PM

750hp from 4cyl 1.6 turbos.... should be fun!!

[Edited on 10/12/10 by loggyboy]


D Beddows - 10/12/10 at 07:37 PM

It's a 'team' sport though isn't it.......... not saying I agree or disagree but unless 'teams' only have one car I don't see how you can stop it happening to some degree


Ben_Copeland - 10/12/10 at 07:38 PM

Turbos are back finally... but still not as good as the old days !


BenB - 10/12/10 at 07:53 PM

I agree. Ban radios. I think they should also ban telemetry. It really annoys me to see a driver (in quali) sitting with a print out of their team-mates telemetry showing where they can be faster. If they're any good a driver they don't need that info It would also spice things up a bit. Instead of "please go fuel mix D" you have people running out of fuel


UncleFista - 10/12/10 at 09:45 PM

Aren't they going to be limited to 10k rpm ?
A parade of low revving 4 pots is going to sound s***e


Browser - 11/12/10 at 12:42 AM

12,000 rpm I just read, so they will sound a tad flat. But it did say they will allow compounding which was specifically banned last time. Remember also when turbos were last in F1 Renault were laughed at by some because of their 'kettle' car (so-called I think due to it's tendency to overheat) but we ended up with the Brabham BMW with 1500 rumoured bhp in qualifying trim, and that was from a 4 cyl 1500cc motor


MikeR - 11/12/10 at 12:47 AM

If you want a giggle, read up on that BMW engine. The engineers used car blocks from scrap high mile engines that they left outside for a while in the rain and all wee'd on. The wee was supposed to have an acid / alkaline / something in it which helped with the other bits the metal season / harden / something.


trikerneil - 11/12/10 at 06:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
The wee was supposed to have an acid / alkaline / something in it which helped with the other bits the metal season / harden / something.


Thanks for the technical analysis MikeR - made me laugh despite my hangover



Neil


prawnabie - 11/12/10 at 10:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Browser
12,000 rpm I just read, so they will sound a tad flat. But it did say they will allow compounding which was specifically banned last time. Remember also when turbos were last in F1 Renault were laughed at by some because of their 'kettle' car (so-called I think due to it's tendency to overheat) but we ended up with the Brabham BMW with 1500 rumoured bhp in qualifying trim, and that was from a 4 cyl 1500cc motor


It was the yellow "teapot"


Jasper - 11/12/10 at 11:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
If you want a giggle, read up on that BMW engine. The engineers used car blocks from scrap high mile engines that they left outside for a while in the rain and all wee'd on. The wee was supposed to have an acid / alkaline / something in it which helped with the other bits the metal season / harden / something.


This is standard practice for building race engines - it's called a 'seasoned block'. Cossie have done it for years and I'm sure all the other race engine builders have done it too.


Neville Jones - 11/12/10 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
If you want a giggle, read up on that BMW engine. The engineers used car blocks from scrap high mile engines that they left outside for a while in the rain and all wee'd on. The wee was supposed to have an acid / alkaline / something in it which helped with the other bits the metal season / harden / something.


Even at that time, this wasn't a new thing. I remember when I was just about tall enough to look into a racecar, that the fella my dad used to help, had a string of blocks and heads outside leaning against the back of his (working) garage, to 'season' them. That was the 50's for those who want to know!

Cheers,
Nev.