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RAYLEE29 - 2/1/11 at 03:09 PM

Hi, if i bought a car that has 5 seats and added 2 to make it a seven seater what if any legal hoops would i need to jump through?
IVA, MOT, or what
am i correct thinking that as it says 5 seats on the v5 that any more would make the insurance invalid?
thanks in advance Ray


bonzoronnie - 2/1/11 at 03:49 PM

Hi Ray

I once fitted 4 extra seats into a Bedford rascal & fitted individual inertia seat belts. ( Friends vehicle )
Nothing was said at any of the MOT tests:

Mind you, that was prior to computerised MOT testing !!??

I doubt DVLA was ever informed.

Insurance will probably be the biggest issue, we all know how they are eager to have a nice excuse not to pay out

Doubt if you will have much problems doing this legit if the exta seats are being fitted to a vehicle that comes as a seven seater as an option


theduck - 2/1/11 at 04:01 PM

Any seat would need a seat belt, and you would either need to declare it to insurers as a modification or declare it to DVLA to have V5 changed, which would require having the conversion inspected iirc. Easiest is declaring the seats to insurers.


MakeEverything - 2/1/11 at 04:12 PM

The logbook says 5 seats, so any more people in the car would render the driver liable for prosecution for overloading the vehicle as a minimum.

Why not just get a 7 seater to start with? There are more issues than just the number of seats to worry about.

Insurance (as already mentioned)
Maximum Weight & Load
Law (Road Worthiness etc) such as Construction and Use regs.
Road Taxation Class

I would imagine that it isnt impossible to do, but you need to understand the correct process and the associated costs. I would also surmise that it would be cost prohibitive.


steve m - 2/1/11 at 04:44 PM

send the log book off and change the 5 to a 7

if it comes back as 7 whats the problem ?


Steve


marcjagman - 2/1/11 at 05:03 PM

Check your driving license first. Some of my mates who have not had a license for too long can only drive a vehicle with a maximum of 6 seats inc driver.


theduck - 2/1/11 at 05:07 PM

marcjagman - are you sure about that? The standard limit is 7 seats including driver. Fiancee has only had her license around 2 years and she can drive a 7 seater.


rusty nuts - 2/1/11 at 05:21 PM

Some estate cars Volvo's and Mondeo's for example can be fitted with a pair of rear facing seats using readily available conversion parts


morcus - 2/1/11 at 06:46 PM

My dad did this about 15 years ago and he said to me that If he'd crashed he'd have to throw away the rear seats for insurance purposes.

I would think buying a car that already has 7 seats would be a much better option.


Davey D - 2/1/11 at 06:58 PM

Im assuming this 7 passenger thing is only because they have recently passed their tests?

Category B (Under Minibuses) 21 Yrs old on your license states:

Vehicles with between 9 and 16 passenger seats not for hire or reward. MAM not exceeding 3.5 tonnes or 4.25 tonnes including specialist equipment for the carriage of disabled passengers. No trailer of any size may be pulled. B licence must have been held for 2 years. Valid for minibuses only when used in the United Kingdom.


MK9R - 2/1/11 at 07:58 PM

Volvo v70 has 3rd row seats as a dealer fit option, so its obviously legit to do, but no idea how


Ninehigh - 2/1/11 at 10:41 PM

Looks to me like what they do is bolt down a pair of cushions and a set of seatbelt fittings.

You're also probably better off getting a real 7-seater I've seen those Volvo ones and if you have legs it's gonna be an awful ride.

Would you need the 7 seats all/most of the time?


ChrisW - 2/1/11 at 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by morcus
My dad did this about 15 years ago and he said to me that If he'd crashed he'd have to throw away the rear seats for insurance purposes.

I would think buying a car that already has 7 seats would be a much better option.


My Dad did this too, years ago, in a Volvo 265. I was only about 10 at the time, but the legroom was still a big problem. It was all done with genuine dealer parts, as the 3rd row was a standard factory option.

You can change the V5 to 7 seats no problem - just change it and send it off. Then just insure it as a 7 seat version of the same car.

Chris