On the way out this morning at 8 am i was traveling through a village with a car 4 lengths in front and 3 cars behind me.
A woman copper on here own was stood on a street corner were you couldn't see her until the last moment due to the sun and was pointing a hand
held speed gun at us, I looked at the speedo and i was doing 36 mph.
She didn't pull anybody over so i carried on to the petrol station and then thought i wonder what the speed limit is at that point so i went back
for a look, It was 30 mph but when i approached were she was stood she had pulled a lad over in a Clio and was writing him a ticket with the passenger
side door open.
So my question is did she have to pull me over to book me ?
Thanks
Its likely that you would need to be pulled over for a booking.
Tut Tut Mick
The police are often out side where i work and they always pull people/ cars in to ticket them
if this helps
Graham
Not an expert - However my guess is you went past her, and at 36mph +/- what your speedo showed you, and what her hand held showed her....
Your still short of getting prosecuted, advice maybe....
My bet is the Clio driver was hitting 40mph.
What you experienced today was a Cop doing their job, and also using their discretion, dont knock it.
The 30 & 40 mph limits are the MOST IMPORTANT ones to adhere too - Apparently
I am not knocking them, to be honest the place where it was is a bit of a money spinner it used to be 40 mph 2 months ago and very few signs stating the change.
Fair point - The fact its a cop and not one of those money spinner vans, suggests to me its a local cop just reminding the locals of the speed limit
change.
Otherwise nobody would take any notice.
as t66 says, 36 minus your speedo error probably wouldnt pass the prosecution threshold, and isnt really worthwhile if the copper was waiting for
someone doing a greater speed.
Ive heard you dont tend to get prosecuted til about 35mph on the gun.
Thanks for the replies guy's
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Originally posted by sonic
I am not knocking them, to be honest the place where it was is a bit of a money spinner it used to be 40 mph 2 months ago and very few signs stating the change.
But thats it, no repeater signs in a
30 zone. I'd forgotten (or never knew) that last bit untill I did a course a few weeks ago. So if you can't see a repeater sign and
there's street lights, it's a 30. No street lights and it's NSL and everything else will be signed.
see up here there has to be two of them present to book you
not that that helps... but my fingers are crossed for you
Unless you pass a proper money-maker camera (there are a few), 36mph indicated is unlikely to get you fined, be it a camera or especially a proper
copper.
Either way, they can't book you if they didn't stop you
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Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by sonic
I am not knocking them, to be honest the place where it was is a bit of a money spinner it used to be 40 mph 2 months ago and very few signs stating the change.
To be fair there'll be 2 fecking big round reflective signs with 30 in big letters where it becomes 30...
It could have been a plastic copper (PCSO) and you might find that in short while you will receive a letter warning you that you were speeding and
that they know who you are and any further instances might lead to a prosecution. They quite often send out trainees and PCSO's to do speed gun
work in our area as training on how to do it and where the best ambush spots are. Plus the data give them a cheap way of finding out if it's
worth sending out the proper kit (will the rewards be justified in more rural locations).
HTH
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Originally posted by PSpirine
Unless you pass a proper money-maker camera (there are a few), 36mph indicated is unlikely to get you fined, be it a camera or especially a proper copper.
Either way, they can't book you if they didn't stop you
Don't think it was a pcso
The police car was parked down a side street and it was a Silver 5 series BMW touring all marked up etc.
suprised as it was a woman copper on here own.
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So if you can't see a repeater sign and there's street lights, it's a 30. No street lights and it's NSL and everything else will be signed.
If you did not get pulled over you are ok, simple as that.
Yes you were probably under the prosecution threshold, lucky you.
Hand held speed cameras don't record speed once they have been reset, therefore only the Police word against yours, however the courts will
believe the police if push came to shove, I.e. You did not stop when asked to.
If the speed limit has dropped from 40 to 30 then it is likely that the local cop will be seeing if it is being complied with or wether further action
or resources are needed.
Other places and times to watch for are military establishments and garrison towns at in and out muster, MOD police will be vigilant at these times.
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Unless you pass a proper money-maker camera (there are a few), 36mph indicated is unlikely to get you fined, be it a camera or especially a proper copper. Either way, they can't book you if they didn't stop you
I too was caught by the use of a speed gun and despite not being stopped I received a Notice of Intended Prosecution.
No offer of accept points went straight to magistrates court - same result though - 3 points £45 fine.
I think the 10% plus 3mph threshold is a general guidline for the police and not set in stone.