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Fell at the first hurdle but got it done, well almost
02GF74 - 9/5/11 at 10:36 AM

re;

Despite falling at the first hurdle by not having 36 mm socket to remove the hub nut, (a Sunday trip to Halfords sorted that)I managed to replace the split gaiter!!

Haynes is wrong since I had to remove the track arm as the balljoint does not have enough movement to drop out of the upright, no biggy, 2 bolts to undo and these were fresh as I replaced tracking arms before....... but the circlip to remove the CV from the shaft, what a nightmare!!! After about an hour got that off using two flat bladed screwdrivers to push the clip ends apart as far as possible.

Used a top part of a Tesco 2.0 l placcy bottle put inside the gaiter so it slid over the grease packed CV - presmably this is the cone that was being referred to??

..... but the nut that comes in the CV gaiter kit is self-locking type and is different thread from the earlier stacked type ARGGHHH!!!!!

If I cannot get one from Volvo then will have to make a steel shim so the nut sits in different position so I can use a different part of it to stake into the shaft groove, effing annoying that.


[Edited on 9/5/11 by 02GF74]


liam.mccaffrey - 9/5/11 at 10:44 AM

the more times you remove that inner CV clip the better you get at it. I can do it in an instant now using an 8mm piece of key steel.


adithorp - 9/5/11 at 11:16 AM

The "cone" is so you can push/stretch the boot over the CV joint without removing the CV from the shaft. If you took the CV off there's nothing to stretch the boot over, it just slides up the shaft... so confused a bit by the desription.


coyoteboy - 9/5/11 at 12:29 PM

I just accepted I'd not get my inner CV clip off (on my celica) and used a lump hammer to smash it off and found a replacement! Wasn't aware there was actually a way to remove it at all, is this particular to your joint design or is it a technique I don't know?


02GF74 - 9/5/11 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by adithorp
The "cone" is so you can push/stretch the boot over the CV joint without removing the CV from the shaft. If you took the CV off there's nothing to stretch the boot over, it just slides up the shaft... so confused a bit by the desription.


You're kidding, right? Not having the boot to hand, the diameter of the CV has got to be 4x or 5x that of the shaft; that is gonna require some serious stretch machine - presumably what the pneumatic one, as ^^^ mentioned, is for ... will the rubber that that??!?

re: technique - the trick is to open out the criclip as much as possible and to it push down so that is leaves the groove at the opposite side, the side you cannot get to. It is tricky due to lack of access and the angle the screwdrivers sit, due to shape of the recess, makes them want to pop out of place - needs 3 hands; one of each 'driver and one to hold hammer and tap the point apart.

a generic CV joint yesterday


circlip, second item from right, engages in the groove in the splines of the shaft top left.

there is a groove in the inside of the inner race, 3rd from right.

the inner race has one of the lugs cut out to give access to the circlip - the idea being the expanding the circlip will move it off the groove and into that race allowing the joint to be separated.

opening the circlip out is the easy part, ensuring that the circip is out of the groove in the shaft is another matter.

[Edited on 9/5/11 by 02GF74]


adithorp - 9/5/11 at 03:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
The "cone" is so you can push/stretch the boot over the CV joint without removing the CV from the shaft. If you took the CV off there's nothing to stretch the boot over, it just slides up the shaft... so confused a bit by the desription.


You're kidding, right? Not having the boot to hand, the diameter of the CV has got to be 4x or 5x that of the shaft; that is gonna require some serious stretch machine - presumably what the pneumatic one, as ^^^ mentioned, is for ... will the rubber that that??!?

re: technique - the trick is to open out the criclip as much as possible and to it push down so that is leaves the groove at the opposite side, the side you cannot get to. It is tricky due to lack of access and the angle the screwdrivers sit, due to shape of the recess, makes them want to pop out of place - needs 3 hands; one of each 'driver and one to hold hammer and tap the point apart.


No, I'm not kidding. In order to do it you need a stretch boot (Duraboot) and using a cone and silicone lube you stretch the small end over the CV joint. Takes a bit of force but not difficult. The pneumatic expander is just easier still.

Not all CV's are held as described. Some have a sprung circlip inside (like the one that holds the joint into the diff) and take a sharp blow to remove the joint. Others are the tripod type (like push in Sierra shafts) where the outer housing is removed, then a circlip, then the tripod seperatly.


coyoteboy - 9/5/11 at 06:20 PM

quote:

there is a groove in the inside of the inner race, 3rd from right. the inner race has one of the lugs cut out to give access to the circlip - the idea being the expanding the circlip will move it off the groove and into that race allowing the joint to be separated. opening the circlip out is the easy part, ensuring that the circip is out of the groove in the shaft is another matter.



90% certain mine doesn't have that groove that you mention, I have the parts knocking about somewhere from an old one, I'll have to check now to see if I've been overly brutal without good reason