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what the hell is the matter with hamilton!
mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 05:17 PM

christ... desperation isn't the word.


scootz - 12/6/11 at 05:18 PM

He has NO patience!


Mark Allanson - 12/6/11 at 05:24 PM

Maybe its because he is.........an Ali Gee fan!


mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 05:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
He has NO patience!


yeah, thats about the size of it... hes so good in the wet... i think hes gotta write this season off, he can only get worse...


ashg - 12/6/11 at 05:26 PM

personally I think the main problem is that he is a cock!


scootz - 12/6/11 at 05:28 PM

Stop beating about the bush Ash!


mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 05:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Maybe its because he is.........an Ali Gee fan! [/quoTE]

maybe its because hes a cock.. and i like him!


mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 05:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
personally I think the main problem is that he is a cock!


hah!

yeah. i still think hes a better racer than button...


femster87 - 12/6/11 at 05:32 PM

Don't care if he is a cock or not. He is entertaining, not like the rest or the boring bunch


scootz - 12/6/11 at 05:37 PM

I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!


ashg - 12/6/11 at 05:37 PM

i cant deny the fact that he has got talent but his attitude is a joke, his new life style seems to be causing a few issues with general attitude towards the world


Simon - 12/6/11 at 05:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
personally I think the main problem is that he is a cock!


I agree entirely. Would like to add to it but might be slanderous.

Prefer Button every time.

Oh yeah, on the subject of sportsmen

Well done Bradley Wiggins

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Simon]


Richard Quinn - 12/6/11 at 05:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i cant deny the fact that he has got talent but his attitude is a joke, his new life style seems to be causing a few issues with general attitude towards the world

It's probably a "bit of a phase". Look back at Button's early years in F1 when racing was a bit of an inconvenience that got in the way of his social life.


femster87 - 12/6/11 at 05:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!


As I don't know him personally, the only thing to find entertaining is his driving skills. Being highly competitive is surely not someones downfall. With regards to his personality i cant comment.

[Edited on 12/6/11 by femster87]


scootz - 12/6/11 at 05:56 PM

You don't know Lewis?

I thought everyone on LCB knew him!


femster87 - 12/6/11 at 05:57 PM

lool, maybe they do but I dont


Antnicuk - 12/6/11 at 06:03 PM

people seem to forget how young he is, its a lot of responsibility at that age.


scootz - 12/6/11 at 06:10 PM

He's 26 feckin years old! He's a grown man... not a boy!


blakep82 - 12/6/11 at 06:11 PM

As I see it, button pulled into into him and pushed him into to pit wall on a legit overtake


scootz - 12/6/11 at 06:26 PM

You can't go charging around a wet circuit the way he was doing... he'd already had one 'at fault' prang just a few minutes before! If it hadn't happened when it did, then it would have happened soon after!

PS - I also thought that JB turned sharply into him, but the re-runs show it was the contact from the rear that made JB's front end momentarily twitch left.

[Edited on 12/6/11 by scootz]


Gordy - 12/6/11 at 06:32 PM

Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]


lewis - 12/6/11 at 06:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
You don't know Lewis?

I thought everyone on LCB knew him!


Everyone knows me I can't believe your all slagging me off!


AndyW - 12/6/11 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by femster87
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!


As I don't know him personally, the only thing to find entertaining is his driving skills. Being highly competitive is surely not someones downfall. With regards to his personality i cant comment.

[Edited on 12/6/11 by femster87]


I agree. how can you judge someone who you dont know, on personality when you hear him being interviewed for maybe 1 or 2 minutes every few week? I find this name calling all abit sad really. Each driver is different, each have different personalities and skills, but for people to call these guys "twats" and "c0*ks" etc is really quite pathetic.

But thats just my opinion based on some people who I dont know so I must be right


femster87 - 12/6/11 at 06:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lewis
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
You don't know Lewis?

I thought everyone on LCB knew him!


Everyone knows me I can't believe your all slagging me off!


Sorry Lewis, I do know you


gaz_gaz - 12/6/11 at 06:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by AndyW
quote:
Originally posted by femster87
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!


As I don't know him personally, the only thing to find entertaining is his driving skills. Being highly competitive is surely not someones downfall. With regards to his personality i cant comment.

[Edited on 12/6/11 by femster87]


I agree. how can you judge someone who you dont know, on personality when you hear him being interviewed for maybe 1 or 2 minutes every few week? I find this name calling all abit sad really. Each driver is different, each have different personalities and skills, but for people to call these guys "twats" and "c0*ks" etc is really quite pathetic.

But thats just my opinion based on some people who I dont know so I must be right


Agreed.

I don't plan on grabbing a beer with him so his personality does not matter anyway.


JoelP - 12/6/11 at 07:08 PM

he was just trying to overtake, no harm there. With webber he slipped on the kerb, button closed the door on him, schumacher scared him off. Same at monaco, he was just trying to pass people. Had the other drivers avoided him like people used to avoid montoya, there wouldnt be as many collisions.


Antnicuk - 12/6/11 at 07:33 PM

i dont know a great deal about F1 but from what i gather Senna was a little 'spirited' in some of his overtakes but people thinkg he was passionate and an F1 hero. Maybe hamilton has to be dead before people will like him


mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 08:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
You can't go charging around a wet circuit the way he was doing... he'd already had one 'at fault' prang just a few minutes before! If it hadn't happened when it did, then it would have happened soon after!

PS - I also thought that JB turned sharply into him, but the re-runs show it was the contact from the rear that made JB's front end momentarily twitch left.

[Edited on 12/6/11 by scootz]


tbh its a Fing f1 race...


D Beddows - 12/6/11 at 08:08 PM

lol, that's probably true - almost everyone disliked Senna when he was alive basically for the same reasons people dislike Lewis Hamilton now....... Now he's been dead a good while he's become everyones favorite F1 driver - I just remember an arrogant t*sser who would do anything to win.......but who also happened to be an amazingly gifted driver......

No, I'm not comparing the two in terms of talent just the public's reaction to them


blakep82 - 12/6/11 at 08:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]



Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P


scootz - 12/6/11 at 09:09 PM

What a finish... GO Button!


pdm - 12/6/11 at 09:11 PM

Hamilton's the same as Simoncelli - bit of a hothead anyway and it gets worse when putting himself under pressure - both of them have left themselves a lot to do today.


Gordy - 12/6/11 at 09:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]



Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking techniques


mrwibble - 12/6/11 at 09:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]



Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking techniques


bah. hamilton would wip button every time 1v1


Gordy - 12/6/11 at 09:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrwibble
quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???

[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]



Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking techniques


bah. hamilton would wip button every time 1v1
Every time??? like today i suppose, you need to finish the race to win the race.


Johneturbo - 12/6/11 at 09:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!


I agree you need personalitys, hopefully di resta will grow one.. after Qually i thought they were interviewing Andy murray!


skodaman - 13/6/11 at 01:08 AM

" I just remember an arrogant t*sser who would do anything to win.'' Yes that's how I remember him as well. Unfortunately Lewis holds him up as his greatest hero. Senna and even more so Scummy have greatly tarnished their reputations by dirty driving. Lewis hasn't gone this far yet. But he needs to calm down. His last two races have just been dumb. Could've been a Brit one two cos he's undoubtably faster than Button when he doesn't crash.


hughpinder - 13/6/11 at 08:19 AM

I like Hamilton to watch, but Button seems to win more because of better tactics and wearing his tyres less. I suspect Hamilton will stop pushing quite so hard in a couple of races time, as it will then be impossible for him to be world champion this season even if he wins every race.

Hugh


Peteff - 13/6/11 at 08:20 AM

Nicole Scherzinger is sucking all the common sense out of him, jammy git.


scootz - 13/6/11 at 08:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by hughpinder
I suspect Hamilton will stop pushing quite so hard in a couple of races time, as it will then be impossible for him to be world champion this season even if he wins every race.


I reckon he will go the opposite way and become more banzai than ever!


James - 13/6/11 at 08:28 AM

Unbeleivable! The moaning that goes on about F1 being boring and there being no overtaking and a massively talented, British, driver comes along who's done more to spice things up in years and he gets slagged!

As they said during the race, of the 280 competitive over-takes this season, Hamilton has made 10% of them!

Along with Vettel and Alonso, Hamilton is clearly in the top 3 drivers. Any of the commentators will continually say this and it's frequently mentioned in the reputable F1 media. Anyone who believes he's not in the top tier 3 is mistaken.

Think of all the pre-Pirelli/DRS years since 2007 when most of the pack seemed to just drive round in line, one after another never taking any risks... apart from Alonso, Lewis and Kimi.


I've heard people criticise Hamilton for being too 'corporate' and sticking to the company line (my God! he's professional and doesn't slag his employer to the press- you tried doing that and kept your job?) and then he makes a comment like the Ali G one (when he was clearly actually upset and emotional) and people criticise him for that too. The guy can't win!
We could have another whole thread about WHY it can't be easy being of mixed race in F1 and how the Ali G line could be at the back of his mind- but that would go *really* OT!


Don't get me wrong, there were clearly mistakes made both here and Monaco, I don't know why his judgement is off at the moment and it's a great shame as the Mclaren is now as quick in race trim as the RedBull (and will be as quick in qualy, I suspect, now hot blown exhausts are banned). It *may* be lifestyle or a lack of an 'F1 manager'. I suspect it's that he *knows* he should be winning and so is taking unnecessary risks. Maybe someone needs to sit him down and explain the bigger picture! Look at Alonso, he's been mighty patient whilst waiting for the car to get up to scratch!


As for Button:

Good on Button for what he achieved yesterday. I'm massively pleased for there to be another Mclaren win. Button is great in those changeable-type conditions and having stopped 5(?) times for tyres and had a drive-through he did amazingly to get up to 2nd and then to pressurize Vettel into making a mistake.


Gutted not to have bought a Rocket Red top a few months ago when I had the chance of a cheaper one. Not sure I can get away with wearing it at work when I should be in a shirt/tie though!


Mclaren forever!!!


cheers,
James


franky - 13/6/11 at 09:00 AM

No doubt he's good but his ambition is greater than his ability.


BenB - 13/6/11 at 09:05 AM

I think Hamilton is a great driver but he needs to take a tiny little chill pill because recently he's been going for some rather silly moves. The move on Button was a prime example, if Hamilton had taken the outer wet line he would have been fine but instead he tried to nip into the dry line and hope Button saw him coming. He didn't.
Bizarely in the first few years he showed more maturity!
Exciting race though eh?


designer - 13/6/11 at 09:20 AM

The problem with Lewis is his 'new' lifestyle.

Trophy girlfriend, silly beard and earring!!!


James - 13/6/11 at 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
The problem with Lewis is his 'new' lifestyle.

Trophy girlfriend, silly beard and earring!!!


You've seen JB's girlfriend? You've seen Vettel and everyone else's daft beard? Not entirely sure it's the problem! Maybe it's just the earrings?


ashg - 13/6/11 at 11:48 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13747578.stm