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Fairfuel Debate in House of Commons - TODAY
mad4x4 - 15/11/11 at 12:53 PM

Fair Fuel Debete - background Infp

As we all know, well maybe some of us don't, the debate is happening in the House of Commons today. What is the outcome? How do I find out if my MP attended. Is there any follow up?

How do we (the public) ensure this doesn't Stall.


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blakep82 - 15/11/11 at 01:01 PM

the outcome will be, they discuss it, as they have to, they all say, 'no, there's not going to be a change to fuel duty... next! anyone got any more to say on news of the world?'

and that's my prediction on how it'll go

mookaloid - 15/11/11 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
the outcome will be, they discuss it, as they have to, they all say, 'no, there's not going to be a change to fuel duty... next! anyone got any more to say on news of the world?'

and that's my prediction on how it'll go


I Hope you are wrong - but I fear you are correct

r1_pete - 15/11/11 at 01:28 PM

Well they have to recover the tax revenues lost by giving road tax incentives for high mpg cars, and the associated loss of fuel duty.

Surrey Dave - 15/11/11 at 02:18 PM

We'are a long way past fair fuel prices, fuel duty has been much too high for too long , the green argument is a good excuse to hit an easy target!

All they talk about is a few pence here and there , will make no discernable difference to anyone!

Why should fuel tax rise every year, are the government investing in new infrastructure, devoloping expensive products , having trouble with the cost of living? NO!.

It's a complete p**s take , and we are such a passive nation divided by class and income/wealth that we poke up with it!..............

Do I sound angry? , it f**** me off!






[Edited on 15/11/11 by Surrey Dave]

alistairolsen - 15/11/11 at 02:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
We'are a long way past fair fuel prices, fuel duty has been much too high for too long , the green argument is a good excuse to hit an easy target!

All they talk about is a few pence here and there , will make no discernable difference to anyone!

Why should fuel tax rise every year, are the government investing in new infrastructure, devoloping expensive products , having trouble with the cost of living? NO!.

It's a complete p**s take , and we are such a passive nation divided by class and income/wealth that we poke up with it!..............

Do I sound angry? , it f**** me off!






[Edited on 15/11/11 by Surrey Dave]


I agree to some extent, but some incentive needs to be given to shun the luxury of huge, inefficient status symbol cars and get sensible. I'm far more annoyed by the fat and waste that goes into every contract in this country and the inability of the goverment to invest properly for any future beyond their 4 year term. Labour had 13 years in office and NOTHING has improved long term. They did 3 terms of 4 years to keep their voters sweet.

ali f27 - 15/11/11 at 06:07 PM

sadly the politicians dont run the country we need to get back to government by the people for the people the city has had it,s chance and ba*lsed up most people i know are taking a hiding in the name of austerity better get it right mr cameron or you will need a new job

clairetoo - 15/11/11 at 06:27 PM

Ever heard of the law of diminishing returns ? I read somewhere recently that the income the government gets from fuel duty has fallen significantly over the last few years because people are simply driving a lot less than they used to .
I know I do less miles now - my total this year has been less than 6 thousand miles , in two cars !

If fuel was a lot cheaper , I would actually do a lot more miles...........but at £60 to fill my Corsa , I just cant afford to go anywhere

daviep - 15/11/11 at 06:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen

I agree to some extent, but some incentive needs to be given to shun the luxury of huge, inefficient status symbol cars and get sensible. I'm far more annoyed by the fat and waste that goes into every contract in this country and the inability of the goverment to invest properly for any future beyond their 4 year term. Labour had 13 years in office and NOTHING has improved long term. They did 3 terms of 4 years to keep their voters sweet.


I think that you have hit the nail on the head, unfortunately I don't think we (as a country) are going to like any government who actually start to act in our best inerests, we've been bribed with sweeties for too long and we won't like been told what we can/can't have.

In my opinion we have all had it too good for too long and now we have to pay the price.

Davie

morcus - 15/11/11 at 08:25 PM

To be honest, only bad can come of this because that's how bureaucracy works. No government is going to cut taxes when they've got no money, any rejig of the system will end up costing us more and probably in a way that is less fair and unavoidable.

Of the people for the people stuff is all very good in theory but not in practice, I mean how many people on here know how to run a country? I also think this idea that banks control the government is ridiculous, the tories have done pretty much what they said they'd do.

I do think fuel duty is too high and that VAT on taxed items should be illegal but bringing something to someones attention is only going to show them how they can make more money from it.

Ninehigh - 16/11/11 at 02:16 AM

Problem is now's the time when taxes should be low, when the money's rolling around freely is when these debts should be paid back. Keeping us all skint isn't helping the recession.

I mean if everyone saves £5 a week on getting to work, then that's a fiver that can go to some other business and help the recovery... But that would actually help