Whilst on holiday Italian friends took me to the underground car-park where their late grandfather's late 60's/early70's 1600ti has been dry stored for 25+ years.
It's one owner, done >100k, fully serviced in the day and apart from running around town was used for "long" trips to the family holiday home 100k's away every summer!
It looks pretty original - even has a period Haynes manual in the glove box.
Sadly it wasn't possible to see if it still runs, the coolant level in the rad is below the top of the tubes so may or may not have coolant/cooling issues.
There's some light rust visible in the boot where the floor joins the wing otherwise it looked very original and I suspect any other rust is likely to be surface.
I'm conscious of potential issues with brakes, injection, engine generally and bodywork as I gather they weren't rustproofed. Also the rubber bonnet seal has age hardened and perished. This beggars the question as to what other rubber seals and gaskets are like.

So here's the question - what should I bid them on it?
I don't want to overbid but there again being friends I don't want them to feel insulted.

I'm aware pristine ones when they come up fetch very significant money but one that's a non-runner and been stored for years??

Any thoughts/comments greatly appreciated.

TIA, Pewe10

PS I've already looked at transport back to the UK - good old Shiply Transport look most competitive.

Peter, i used to look after one of these, they are very basic, not a fantastic drive but were in my opinion better built than a lot of the later stuff, as you point out could be worth a fair bit, parts were still available from BMW at reasonable prices, as for what to bid, no idea but maybe look at a decent one and half it ?

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Originally posted by pewebeing friends I don't want them to feel insulted.

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Is the engine similar to the 2002ti?

Wheeler dealers did a 2002 which had been looked after but idle for 17 years, can’t remember what they paid, but it needed a fuel metering unit rebuild due to dried out seals, the other work they did would give you an idea.....

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Originally posted by theconrodkid
Peter, i used to look after one of these, they are very basic, not a fantastic drive but were in my opinion better built than a lot of the later stuff, as you point out could be worth a fair bit, parts were still available from BMW at reasonable prices, as for what to bid, no idea but maybe look at a decent one and half it ?

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Originally posted by pewebeing friends I don't want them to feel insulted.

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Personally if it were friends I'd ask what they wanted as a starting point then go from there. It's much easier to drive a hard bargain if you're not bothered about the ongoing relationship!

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Good points all round guys.
Thanks - much appreciated.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers, Pewe10

question is do you really want it to sink a heap of time and money into a car you've never seen before and has no real sentimental value? unless you had your heart in getting one I'd leave it be and let some else have all the hassle

tbh 5k for an old non runner that was nothing great when it was new seems a bit excessive, all cars get old doesn't mean they are worth buying cos of that.

I'd go by what anyone else would pay for the stupid thing in it's condition and yeah it's may be relatives, hell I have loads of those. Yeah it maybe worth a bit once fixed up but I'm wouldn't pay over the odds just cos of that.

Offer them 800 for this old banger, it's not even your relatives car it was their late grandfather's so why should they make a heap for it?? Mind that once you've replaced all the knackered bits, got all the chrome plated and found all those almost impossible to source parts, welded it back together, repainted you'll probably only make back a few thousand if your lucky.

Personally I'd spend my 5k + (unknown quantity) on a decent car that actually works...



[Edited on 21/9/18 by Mr Whippy]

Doesn't one of the classic magazine's list car prices?

If it's a car you've always wanted then offer away. If it's not offer what you're prepared to write off if it turns to scrap.

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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
question is do you really want it to sink a heap of time and money into a car you've never seen before and has no real sentimental value? unless you had your heart in getting one I'd leave it be and let some else have all the hassle

tbh 5k for an old non runner that was nothing great when it was new seems a bit excessive, all cars get old doesn't mean they are worth buying cos of that.

I'd go by what anyone else would pay for the stupid thing in it's condition and yeah it's may be relatives, hell I have loads of those. Yeah it maybe worth a bit once fixed up but I'm wouldn't pay over the odds just cos of that.

Offer them 800 for this old banger, it's not even your relatives car it was their late grandfather's so why should they make a heap for it?? Mind that once you've replaced all the knackered bits, got all the chrome plated and found all those almost impossible to source parts, welded it back together, repainted you'll probably only make back a few thousand if your lucky.

Personally I'd spend my 5k + (unknown quantity) on a decent car that actually works...



[Edited on 21/9/18 by Mr Whippy]

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