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BMW Brakes - Recall
JAG - 11/9/24 at 03:04 PM

If you're a recent purchaser of a new or used BMW then this article may be of interest.

It seems that some Continental manufactured Brake Actuation Units (electrified and decoupled ABS Modulator/Servo/Mastercylinder) may fail under certain circumstances. See your favourite BMW Dealer for details

https ://cardealermagazine.co.uk


cliftyhanger - 11/9/24 at 04:01 PM

That is interesting.
I heard from a friend who runs an independant d=garage that they were working on a nearly new BMW after some accident damage (replacing sensors etc) and it needed a reset. Theirt software wouldn't do it, so he rand teh local BMW specialist (friendly) who said theitr software also wouldn't do it. Next stop was teh BMW main dealer, again friendly. Only to be told that if the vehicle went there it would not be allowed to leave until some remedial work had been done. However, it would take weeks or possibly months due to parts shortages. And no courtesy car.
Driving the car without the reset for a few miles seemed to fix everything, but on a near new car to have it taken away with no proper explanation? That is possibly criminal.
I expect that was the same issue and they are only just going public. It seems buying a new car is a lottery, Fords have some issue where they don't even seem to have a proper fix. I will stick with my 8 year old suzuki.


SteveWalker - 11/9/24 at 08:11 PM

They're all as bad as each other. I've had:

A Nissan that had diesel injection pump and turbo wear. Two weeks to fix under warranty and so many faults (one potentially deadly), introduced by the dealer's work, that I got rid of it.

A ford where the alternator failed (again under warranty) and it took 6 weeks for them to get a replacement in and fitted (no courtesy car for the first 4 weeks, despite me working 125 miles away and my wife being a Community Psychiatric Nurse).

A Vauxhall, recalled twice for the notorious fan fault that made them prone to setting on fire.

An MG (EV) that suddenly stopped charging after putting in about 10% on a 7kW charger and wouldn't charge at all on an 11kW charger. The garage tried charging with a 3kW charger and said it was okay, then took 2-1/2 months (despite me repeatedly telling them what to do) to get around to trying it on a 7kW charger, seeing the fault, and finally discovering that a module needed replacing.


Mr Whippy - 12/9/24 at 11:40 AM

Far too complicated, all this tech just to go from A to B. Most of it is just to compensate for pathetic driving skills (doesn't work, the fools just go faster thinking their the next Stig).

It's no surprise I'm seeing a huge increase at car shows for 80 & 90's cars who could be bothered with all that unreliable crap?


coyoteboy - 12/9/24 at 11:53 AM

To be fair, it's spectacular that systems that complex work as well and reliably as they do.

And on the other hand, it's amazing what they can do with modern tech, since people for the most part don't want to have to have amazing driving skills to go to the shop. I am happy my mother is super safe in her trip to the local town, and her car has added features that compensate for other idiots and any lack of stig-ness she has.

The only real problem is the length of time to resolve the problem.


Mr Whippy - 12/9/24 at 01:09 PM

oh yeah it's great having all that tech for safety but what I find is people now drive like their on a race track not aware they're barely in control at all as the computer is compensating. You see this most often in the winter when their car failed to perform a miracle and the now cars sitting on it's roof.

Some manufactures seem go out their way to make their cars as complex and expensive to repair as possible, you know the names... funnily enough that's also the same ones you see at the side of the road with the hazards on


MikeR - 12/9/24 at 02:01 PM

I've christened my new car Brexit - cost an absolute fortune and their is so much to go wrong its unbelievable.

However whilst the car is working (so far, touch wood) its incredible.


nick205 - 12/9/24 at 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
oh yeah it's great having all that tech for safety but what I find is people now drive like their on a race track not aware they're barely in control at all as the computer is compensating. You see this most often in the winter when their car failed to perform a miracle and the now cars sitting on it's roof.

Some manufactures seem go out their way to make their cars as complex and expensive to repair as possible, you know the names... funnily enough that's also the same ones you see at the side of the road with the hazards on




Have to say I'm with you on this Mr W!

Modern cars are filled full of electronic trickery that's working constantly to keep drivers in a staright line and on 4 wheels. If drivers were actually aware how often the ABS, traction, stability etc. etc are actually triggering away and adjusting things they'd be amazed.

I know if I hoof it off a local roundabout a bit quick the car's traction jitters to keep it inline.

As you say, if all these systems were removed there'sd be many more cars on their rooves.


Sarah - 12/9/24 at 10:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Far too complicated, all this tech just to go from A to B.


Yep agree entirely. Trouble is, when the tech goes wrong, it's horrendous. I've had four Espaces, fab cars till the last one. Wasn't paying much attention when I bought it, turned out to be a pile that cost £1350 to get through an MOT because the ABS pump failed (and various other problems). I use/own a Vivaro for gardening etc - one injector cost over £800 to get fitted. So many cars are going to be scrapped just because the cost of repair is/will be far more than car is worth.

I have a nice 39 year old SD1 project in the garage that will be my daily when finished (haven't actually started working on it yet - October).


Mr Whippy - 13/9/24 at 06:47 AM

I sold my wife's Volvo S60 due to endless expensive repairs, damn thing was so complex I dreaded even starting it up for this weeks warning light fiasco.

So I replaced it with a gutter base model Meriva that even has wind up rear windows Less is more when looking for something reliable. My wife was like, "What, so it doesn't have automatic lights??". "oh no, it has automatic nothing..., enjoy you new car"

She's started speaking to me again.


MikeR - 13/9/24 at 07:45 AM

Wifes mini started complaining it needed its brake fluid replaced because it was 5 years old. I can't do it as i can't reset the computer. Reluctantly paid BMW who then said "the bonnet struts need replacing as the pedestrian safety pyro that fire on a slow speed impact to raise the bonnet are only rated for 5 years. The date is printed on the strut see here...."

f off - if airbags and seat belt tensioners can last a lifetime sp can the pedestrian bonnet safety system.


Its all part of a decision to 'reduce' the cost of the car and make extra cash through the lifetime of the vehicle. Also be increasing the cost of parts its pulling end of life obsolescence sooner which will drive new sales.


Mr Whippy - 13/9/24 at 11:44 AM

It is a scam. Like why you have cars these days with no gearbox oil fillers and why everything from your steering to your heater controls have to be "coded" to your cars ECU, and why every component is now one huge sealed together lump that happens to cost a fortune and cannot be repaired or dismantled. "How dare you try to fix your car!"

My old car came with a full tool kit and owners manual basically showing you how to do everything from setting the brakes to removing the cylinder head!