But any of the newish sports bike lumps are going to beat that hands down.
Whats it got to pull around ?
[Edited on 30/8/09 by big_wasa]
Simple rules:-
1. 2000 cc or below.
2. Must not have VVC / Vanos etc.
3. Normally aspirated.
I would say a Peugeot Gti6 (167)/ Renault clio williams (180bhp)would be up there for a cec
But any of the newish sports bike lumps are going to beat that hands down.
Whats it got to pull around ?
[Edited on 30/8/09 by big_wasa]
3SGE? SR20DE? they would def. be up there. Actually the mazda KF 2l aluminium V6 cranks out a whole lot of torque and will rev it's nuts off, would need a custom bellhousing for a rwd box though 160 hp 180 N·m (133 lb·ft) and a 7500 redline.
hmm, what about wankel engines?
is this for a racing series?
the 1992-2002 mazda rx7 made 252hp for the lowest spec, and 276hp for the upper one. doesn't mention if they were turbo or not though
still, not bad for a 1.3 
[Edited on 30/8/09 by blakep82]
clio 182, dont think they are VVC
quote:
Originally posted by will121
clio 182, dont think they are VVC
Whats crap anout them l0rd?
Another vote for Toyota 3SGE. The Gen 3 in my Spyder normally gives 173bhp . But mine is on carbs and is (only) 166!
RWD conversion ain't easy though.
The Mi 16 lump has a good reputation in motorsport circles but again, RWD conversion isn't simple. Unless somebody knows different....?
Geoff.
Just that it doesn't work that well compared to others.
Hence not being advertised as it was renault's first attempt for VVT.
Eh?
It either works or it doesn't lol. at 5350 to 7250 limit RPM the F4r in the 182 jumps nearly 40 bhp over standard lol - have you ever
driven/worked on one?
[Edited on 30/8/09 by prawnabie]
I do appologise. I should have said it is not as reliable as others.
All renault clios with the F4R have VVT.
common problems with them is noise from the inlet cam shaft phase shifter
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
hmm, what about wankel engines?
is this for a racing series?
the 1992-2002 mazda rx7 made 252hp for the lowest spec, and 276hp for the upper one. doesn't mention if they were turbo or not though
still, not bad for a 1.3
[Edited on 30/8/09 by blakep82]
guess it depends how standard? could you disable the vvt and suffer the rubbish torque at low rpms?
If so then any of hondas late engines are 200bhp or more
what about the seat leon cupra 225bhp,
i think its a 20l not sure though
the honda s2000 engine is the most powerful n/a 2L engine with 237bhp. but it does have vtec
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
what about the seat leon cupra 225bhp,
i think its a 20l not sure though
ZX14R engine is circa 190+bhp but its not got the torque you'd want probably.
No idea if it got a VVC equivalent though.
clio 197.
nigh on 200 bhp but a measily 150 or so torques.
an older, more common and cheap contender would be a VX redtop, get the later dispac then the CATed factory figure 150 bhp and torques. so with
removal of cat that goes up. my standard engine with just the addition of filter and decat system gives an impressive 170+ on the RR.
mitsubishi V6 24-valve 2000cc Engine (FTO GR)
the fto has a MIVTEC system which is a type of variable valve timing.... not as good as the honda system either.
for power and torque it must be a sr20de engine. 150bhp out of the factory and 180 breathing properly before you've put cams/headwork/ingnition
onto it. Also its pretty much bomb proof.
quote:
Originally posted by franky
for power and torque it must be a sr20de engine. 150bhp out of the factory and 180 breathing properly before you've put cams/headwork/ingnition onto it. Also its pretty much bomb proof.
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quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
I do appologise. I should have said it is not as reliable as others.
All renault clios with the F4R have VVT.
common problems with them is noise from the inlet cam shaft phase shifter
volvo b5202s- an impressive 123 bhp - surely nobody can beat that !!!
if this is going in A.N. Other motor then the std significance isnt really applicable since intake and exhaust would more than likely be different .
quote:
Originally posted by prawnabie
Are you sure you are not thinking of the dephaser fitted to the K4M 760 and 782?
I have only seen one fail on a clio and that was due to incorrect fitting by another mechanic. Meganes and scenics however are a different story - but that is a different part by a different manufactuer.
Shaun
quote:
Originally posted by prawnabie
Eh?
It either works or it doesn't lol. at 5350 to 7250 limit RPM the F4r in the 182 jumps nearly 40 bhp over standard lol - have you ever driven/worked on one?
Thats an easy one - BMW E30 M3 lump.
You didn't say it had to be the cheapest though!
Plenty of 150bhp candidates though - XE Redtop, Alfa twin spark (although the 170bhp ones were a primitive VVT) ans many others will make 170-180bhp
with minimal tweaking.
The Mi16 is about 170bhp standard, and there is a RWD box that will fit - LDV Pilot. Ratios might be dire though as it was on the 1900 N/A (DW9?)
diesel!
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Skidmore
Simple rules:-
2. Must not have VVC / Vanos etc.
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Skidmore
Simple rules:-
2. Must not have VVC / Vanos etc.
What's this Vanos? Are you looking for an engine without any modern trickery?
Would an early enough tweaked K-series from an MK1 Elise/Exige be pre-VVT? 190bhp for an Exige, isn't it?