Sporty
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 01:34 PM |
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OT - Variable Speed camera's
I'm spending a lot of time driving around the motorways in London and through area's covered by the variable speed limit 's with
speed camera's.
Do the camera's only operate when the variable speed limit sign is lit at lower than 70 or are they on constantly looking for anyone going over
70.
Ian
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yellow melos
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 01:40 PM |
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As far as i am aware.. they are constant...
so it's a constant money maker for the goverment
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russbost
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 01:44 PM |
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I have seen others drive thro' at way over 70, never seen one go off. I believe they are only operative when the warning signs are lit for 60 or
less. Only IMHO of course!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 02:15 PM |
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Most appear to only work when there is a speed limit up. Never seen them flash otherwise.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 03:20 PM |
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I would assume they are always working, and change with whatever the variable limit is.
Road signs / directions evern temporary ones are now legally binding.
Hence it would be silly not to take notice.
More over, the speeds are reduced for a reason. Exceeding the limits is a BIG safety issue.
We have already had a close death on the list the Xmas.... Lets NOT have any more, especially with the current weather conditions.
Drive safely, and stay within the speed limits set by the signs.
I thought this was all a bit obvious
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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dlatch
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 03:33 PM |
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i have been through the ones around heathrow and just over what ever limit was posted at least a million times and still to this day never seen them
flash once
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dan__wright
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:01 PM |
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ive 'seen' people go though them at a fair speed when the signes were off, notthing. only on when signs are afaik
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:07 PM |
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Note that the latest cameras don't flash (or, to be exact, you can't see it - infrared, or something).
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 06:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Note that the latest cameras don't flash (or, to be exact, you can't see it - infrared, or something).
Correct - Infrared. If you look at them late at night, you can see the "flash light" is a constant red beam...
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Chippy
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 11:08 PM |
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If your talking about the M25 then the camera's work all the time, and change to the speed indicated. What you don't know is if there is
actually a camera in the position. One reason you see people speed through the areas is they have radar detectors mounted, which tell you if there is
a camera operating, how do I know, because I have one in my tin top, and go up that way fairly regularly. Cheers Ray
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 07:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
If your talking about the M25 then the camera's work all the time, and change to the speed indicated. What you don't know is if there is
actually a camera in the position. One reason you see people speed through the areas is they have radar detectors mounted, which tell you if there is
a camera operating, how do I know, because I have one in my tin top, and go up that way fairly regularly. Cheers Ray
How does it destinguish between up to 8 cameras in that one location????
Plus if you have a "legal" detector it'll be GPS based so just telling you the locations.
I've been driving on that road for 10+ years and the cameras have always been there. Never have i got a ticket when theres no speed limit
shown... (neither when there indicate a speed cos i keep below it) I cant be that lucky !!!
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morcus
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 08:11 AM |
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I was under the impression that average speed cameras record everyone and use anpr and the network of cameras to work out average speed, hence if they
flashed visably they'd be going off all the time and it would be a distraction. I also thought they were set quite high above the limit when the
limit isn't reduced.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 08:52 AM |
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Average cameras are a whole different kettle of fish, and i dont think Sporty was talking about them in the original post
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 09:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
More over, the speeds are reduced for a reason. Exceeding the limits is a BIG safety issue.
Actually it's a very tiny issue in terms of road deaths, which is why the goverments obsession with speed cameras is so misguided. Putting all
your efforts into fixing a problem that is a contributing factor in only a few percent of road deaths is not a good way to have a significant
reduction in numbers.
Note I am specificaly talking about exceeding a posted limit which is all that speed cameras can detect. Driving at a speed inappropriate for the
conditions (which is very often below the posted limit) kills far more people, and speed cameras are completely useless in this case.
Drive safely at whatever speed is appropriate for the conditions. Don't think that simply sticking to the speed limit makes you a good or safe
driver.
[Edited on 19/12/09 by MikeRJ]
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 11:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Actually it's a very tiny issue in terms of road deaths, which is why the goverments obsession with speed cameras is so misguided. Putting all
your efforts into fixing a problem that is a contributing factor in only a few percent of road deaths is not a good way to have a significant
reduction in numbers.
Note I am specificaly talking about exceeding a posted limit which is all that speed cameras can detect. Driving at a speed inappropriate for the
conditions (which is very often below the posted limit) kills far more people, and speed cameras are completely useless in this case.
Drive safely at whatever speed is appropriate for the conditions. Don't think that simply sticking to the speed limit makes you a good or safe
driver.
[Edited on 19/12/09 by MikeRJ]
I agree, just like the old bloke i was behind this morning in the snow and ice. I slowed right down as i could see it was danderous. He carried on
at 25mph and skidded straight across the roundabout ahead. Only narrowly avoiding a car and the kurb.
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morcus
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 08:12 PM |
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Sorry, I though the variable ones were average speed cameras.
Totally agree with you on driving at a speed suitable for the conditions,especially on a week like this. To be fair I've not seen that much bad
driving with regards to the ice and snow. I agree with the reclassifing of some national limit roads for this reason, on my way to tesco is a road
where it changes to national limit for about a third of a mile, in that space there are two really sharp turns (One is essentially a hairpin) and the
road is narrow and wooded both sides and used by buses. Either side is 30, and with all this I always seem to see people trying to do 60. They
accelerate really hard then brake like they're on a track to go round the corner (In the middle of the road).
Unfortunatly its one of those things that people either don't understand or just ignor like round abouts, indicators and multiple lanes.
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Chippy
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 11:16 PM |
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quote:
How does it destinguish between up to 8 cameras in that one location????
Plus if you have a "legal" detector it'll be GPS based so just telling you the locations.
I've been driving on that road for 10+ years and the cameras have always been there. Never have i got a ticket when theres no speed limit
shown... (neither when there indicate a speed cos i keep below it) I cant be that lucky !!! quote:
The distance between the camera's is too far for the detector, it picks up the incoming pulse at about 200/300 yds.
It's not a GPS location one, it just reads radar signals, and as far as I am aware not illegal as it doesn't jam the signal like
some,
10 years on that road, I feel sorry for you, all I can say is you have been lucky to date, because I can assure you some positions definately do have
camera's mounted.Cheers Ray
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 20/12/09 at 09:55 AM |
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At 200/300 yards those cameras are very close to each other.
Cameras are in most locations, doesnt mean they are active at no posted speeds.
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