britishtrident
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 09:08 PM |
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Is it just me ????
I have been looking into modifying the mapping of tintop petrol ecu's with a view to altering the ignition map to make better use of higher
octane fuel, and as a result have been loitering in some of the forums on the internet that deal specifically with tintop ECU electronics.
Most car and electronic forums are pretty friendly places where help is freely given and nothing looked for in return but looking at archived post in
some of the car ecu forums the geeks that inhabit those forums are the exception. One in particular was like some sort of secret society ruled over by
a moderator who was down right nasty to any newcomer.
[Edited on 29/12/09 by britishtrident]
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JoelP
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 09:09 PM |
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it was probably just a front for a taliban website.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 09:10 PM |
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Just shows what a greeat forum this is 
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02GF74
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 09:15 PM |
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possibly, but then again possibly not.
IK've found that the peeps on electronics fora tend not to be sympathatic to those asking simplistic questions.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 09:47 PM |
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ECU tuning seems to provoke a certain response towards newcomers.
"Look, collectively, we've discussed alllll of this before. If you read through the archives, your answer will be in there
somewhere."
Yes, the answer may be there, but how big is your archive, and how long have you been hanging around ?
That's my findings anyway.
It's unusual for someone to give a straight answer or some clues.
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mrwibble
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 10:14 PM |
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i say old been pass the cavier, more brandy anyone?
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luke
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 10:18 PM |
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I used to be on a certain tintop forum where the forging of friendship groups was quite common, if you weren't part of one of these groups you
were treated as a nobody, even if you had been on the forum a lot longer, as my use got less and less I found a lot happened in pointless threads and
if you missed this you became very disconnected from the forum.
Never go on there anymore, even if I need something.
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boggle
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 10:46 PM |
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sounds like the subaru impreza drivers club......you gotta be in the cliche or you bolloxed...
just because you are a character, doesnt mean you have character....
for all your bespoke parts, ali welding, waterjet, laser, folding, turning, milling, composite work, spraying, anodising and cad drawing....
u2u me for details
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 29/12/09 at 11:34 PM |
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Not just you, the internet is a breeding ground for elitism.
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ReMan
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 12:40 AM |
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No it's not just you.
But in case it is not known, this is an EXCEPTIONALLY forgiving forum.
And whilst it still irritates me when a little when a complete noob posts " which is the best bike engine to use in my car and where can I get a
very long chain from?" the level of patience here is commendable.
But it can lead to a false sense of security when posting elsewhere, as has been described, unless you are already "expert" in the field,
you are a moron no less 
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 03:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
No it's not just you.
But in case it is not known, this is an EXCEPTIONALLY forgiving forum.
And whilst it still irritates me when a little when a complete noob posts " which is the best bike engine to use in my car and where can I get a
very long chain from?" the level of patience here is commendable.
But it can lead to a false sense of security when posting elsewhere, as has been described, unless you are already "expert" in the field,
you are a moron no less
I'd agree, but the level of "Do a Search for Quintin's sake" responses are quite few and far between, mainly I believe
because the search option is a bit toss...
But I'd love to say it, because that was the response that I occasionally receieved when I first joined this forum (under my child's
name), and I feel I should pass on my knowledge of how to gleam responses and answers in a similar manner akin to how someone teaches a
child/adolescent...
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RK
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 04:36 AM |
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I heard car engined cars were better than bike engined cars. Is this true?
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 09:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
I heard car engined cars were better than bike engined cars. Is this true?
This is the internet! You'd be well advised not to always
believe what you hear 
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r1_pete
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 09:36 AM |
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Didn't Practical Performance Car run a series of features on re-mapping ECU's? It was about 18 months ago but I definately remember
reading it, it also advised on the software side of things too.
But I do agree, help and advice is what these forums are all about, and a bit of fun, we all started at the same place once, and knew nothing, so
subjects are bound to get re-visited....
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turboben
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 09:41 AM |
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I was interested in ecu remapping for my 406 hdi. But like you say the websites are so unhelpful and cryptic I gave up. I think the people with
knowledge are making a living from selling remaps...
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snapper
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 10:08 AM |
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Whilst you can fiddle with a map a bit as most manufactures maps are in the very safe area, to get the best out of higher octane fuel you need
compression.
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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yellow melos
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 10:11 AM |
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not you sir.
it seems that any gathering where there is a specific model/type that these groups are interested you find mostly hard core people that can not see
past anything else. these groups are full of very clicky people that do not like new comers and normally shun anyone else i have inly a slight
interest in the subject.
speaking to many car owners of different type you tend to hear the same thing.. went to a Dutton owners club meet once.... and that was the last...
very strange how people do not want to know about anything else.
in fact ( may have been on here ) that a person had a westfield with a non rover engine went to a pub meet and basically got told that if he does not
go they will smash his car up.
some examples.. Volvo club... MGB's club.. cobra club...
thats why it better to stick with a general club rather than a specific club. people a re a lot more open to some thing different.
now you take your ecu and put stick it... we are only interested in points here as ECU's are the devil 
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Angel Acevedo
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 01:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
I heard car engined cars were better than bike engined cars. Is this true?
I´d think so, how many tintops you see with bike engines?
Running for bomb shelter....
Beware of what you wish.. for it may come true....
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britishtrident
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 02:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Whilst you can fiddle with a map a bit as most manufactures maps are in the very safe area, to get the best out of higher octane fuel you need
compression.
The re-mapping to make better use of LPG to partly compensate for 15% power loss on when running on LPG -- a big car with a relatively small engine
needs all the help it get.
LPG sold in the UK is approx 108 octane.
At the moment I can get a little extra ignition advance by using a change over relay to switch in a series resistor into the inlet air temperature
sensor when running on gas it only gives a couple of horse power but the improvement can be felt in mid range.
On Rover engines the IAT input to the ECU only really alters ignition advance.
[Edited on 30/12/09 by britishtrident]
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beagley
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| posted on 30/12/09 at 02:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
Just shows what a greeat forum this is
Amen to that! I've posted some SERIOUS newb questions when I first joined. I appreciate you guys not jumping down my throat about it too.
I've enjoyed and learned a lot from reading through the archives and this is by far the best forum I have been on.
So thanks everyone for not being a bunch of buttheads.
Beags
I'm not scared!!! I'm just marking my territory.
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