D Beddows
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 03:15 PM |
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lol, agreed  BUT it's also a question of the easy availability of other bits - for a front engined rwd car ok maybe not BUT it's so easy
to find suppliers of uprated racing Mini parts (like gearboxes) it's not SUCH a stupid idea.... ploughing your own path is one thing but you
need to be able to finish what you're doing without having to spend on bespoke everything 
Still think you're not going to beat the Vauxhall.... - K series engines are wonderful but finding one that you're sure hasn't
hasn't been bodged is going to be your problem
[Edited on 4/3/10 by D Beddows]
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 03:58 PM |
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Yeah, but with the availability of honda and k series subframes nowadays the first and only step in a series mini tuning is removing it!
I like the vauxhall engine and Im familiar with it and I know it will be reliable, but it comes with a 40kg weight penalty that makes me wince!
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iank
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 04:08 PM |
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The problem with A series tuning, and especially fitting a BMW head is they cost an absolute fortune by the time you've finished. Saw an A
series with BMW head and turbo for sale recently for £10k!!
Much cheaper to fit a vauxhall/honda/K series/R1 or micra engine. Even if they do charge £1-2k for a subframe (where a full 7 chassis seems to go for
£500-700)
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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iank
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 04:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
Yeah, but with the availability of honda and k series subframes nowadays the first and only step in a series mini tuning is removing it!
I like the vauxhall engine and Im familiar with it and I know it will be reliable, but it comes with a 40kg weight penalty that makes me wince!
What about a Zetec SE, 1.25litre is a nice revy and light unit, but underpowered (even the 1.6 is only 99bhp as standard) compared to the K series
though.
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Toltec
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 04:19 PM |
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Smart Brabus engine?
698cc and good for 120bhp?
No idea how you would couple it up to a decent gearbox though 
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gottabedone
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 05:32 PM |
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Had a 1.4 K series on big throttle body, decent exhaust and lightened flywheel and was huuuuuuuuuuuge fun.
Also had a Mk2 Suzuki Swift Gti a few (quite a few) years ago and that was also masses of fun............even though it was FWD
Steve
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 05:44 PM |
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sorry , cant add anything here.....
if its not big , huge and got a whopping turbo , its not worth it .
light , modern , free revving ?
rotary ......... turbo !!
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getting dirty under a bus
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 06:53 PM |
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volvorsport, you sound like a mate of mine! locost with a T5 in it counts for big and turbo'ed!
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Simon
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 07:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
How tuneable is the 1.4 (standard management and small spend)
Saw a carbon fibre elise at Brighton Speed Trials about 10 years ago with a 1.4 k series.
That was big budget, turbo'd and approx 360bhp. From a 1.4, I was impressed .
ATB
Simon
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oldtimer
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 07:32 PM |
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Toyota 4age 20v VVti Blacktop, 8k revs, 160 bhp, 80kg of reliability.
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 07:33 PM |
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just from out of left field here, but i love the engine from the diahatsu charade GTI from yester year. think it was less than 1 litre and you could
rev the nuts off it, strap a massive turbo to it, beef up the head gasket and go tearing up the tarmac at the lights
A man isn't complete until he's married, then he's finished
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 07:47 PM |
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I second the Daihatsu GTi. As stated above, < 1ltr, 3 cylinders, weighed next to nowt and when turbo'd produced 120bhp. IIRC.
Only trouble a bit rare in the UK, only about 200 imported.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Antnicuk
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| posted on 4/3/10 at 07:50 PM |
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RX8 rotary engine, very light, 230 - 250 bhp, 9500 rpm limit in stock form and comes with a RWD 6 speed gearbox
Do i sound like a broken record yet? i will get the message across!
600 BHP per ton, Stylus Brought back from the dead! Turbo Rotary Powered!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 5/3/10 at 12:04 AM |
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The 16v TU5 engine as fitted to Saxo VTS and 106 GTi, or even the hotted up 8v versions are great little engines.
The Swift GTi engine has already been mentioned, but not sure about availability these day, don't tend to see many older Swifts around.
The Zetec SE is Fords version of the K series and can make very good power, and the 14XE and 16XE Vauxhall engines are also very tunable.
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engybenjy
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| posted on 11/3/10 at 12:12 AM |
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BMW M42 engine. Found in E30 318iS in 1.8ltr and in E36 318iS in 1.9ltr guise. Duplex chain, 16valve and adjustable sprockets as standard And
they love having the nuts reved off them, ask me how I know!!
The book says 135bhp but ive seen several on the rollers and they always make more.......oh yeah and their RWD to start
ATB, Ben
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morcus
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| posted on 11/3/10 at 02:36 AM |
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I've got an 8v 1.2 FIRE engine in my car and it really sings at higher revs (even if peak out put is only about 60hp, it feels and sounds good
when you really push it). Be quite fun to put a 1.4 16v with a turbo in a light weight car.
On a side note, how much extra power can you get with stuff like turbo's, better exhausts, airboxes and remaps? I ask because FIAT sold a 500
with 200hp which seems to have the 1.4 16v FIRE engine.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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karlak
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| posted on 11/3/10 at 07:22 AM |
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A VW 1.4Tsi with 170bhp as standard could be interesting .
Not sure of the weight / cost, but maybe a future possibility when they start appearing at scrappy's.
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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