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rayward

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
RING RING !!!!!!!!!!!

naughty...............

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-MINI-VAN-LOGBOOK-V5C-/110606228849?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19c0a51d71




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jossey

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
are you allowed to do that?

confused?

dave j

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Daddylonglegs

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:41 PM Reply With Quote
I think that RING RING! might be Mr Plod at his door asking for some help with their enquiries!





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Surrey Dave

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
If the owner of these plates and documents had the rusty car to go with them and rebuilt or re shelled it ,would that not be ok?

Would it only require an mot?

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mookaloid

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
illegal, against ebay rules, immoral, dodgy, sneaky, underhand, giving rise to fraud etc etc

reported to ebay...........





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mookaloid

posted on 2/11/10 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
If the owner of these plates and documents had the rusty car to go with them and rebuilt or re shelled it ,would that not be ok?

Would it only require an mot?


If he had the car in any condition then that would be fine if he sold the car with the docs and plate.





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Humbug

posted on 2/11/10 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
I reported it as well, for good measure. I googled "Sunderland Mini Centre" and found this, amongst other things (I think it's the same person). Looks like a bit of a naughty boy!
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r1_pete

posted on 2/11/10 at 03:27 PM Reply With Quote
Its legal to keep the chassis no etc, if you are re shelling, and transfer all the other components.

But I doubt he has all the other bits to go with it!

Its actually quite common in the classic car re-shelling game!!!! rightly or wrongly.






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AndyW

posted on 2/11/10 at 03:43 PM Reply With Quote
reported as that is sooo wrong...
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mcerd1

posted on 2/11/10 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
^^ like r1_pete says it can be done legaly, but only if you keep the rest of the bits and do it with a new shell (can you even get a new mini van shell ? )








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Ninehigh

posted on 2/11/10 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
Well once you've scraped a car (scraped ffs) the vin no longer exists or something to that effect.

Oh btw the advert is still up






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mad4x4

posted on 2/11/10 at 06:24 PM Reply With Quote
Bet he has'nt scraped it only disposed of the Body for "easy storage".......


Could be selling it for "Historic" purposes//// LOL





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Russell

posted on 2/11/10 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
What if I dismantled a Sierra into a bucketful of bits and scrapped the shell but kept the V5, VIN and number plates and offered them for sale on here as a "donor" vehicle? How wrong would that be?





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mad4x4

posted on 2/11/10 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
Selling the parts is not wrong, it is selling the paper work that is wrong.

A V5only would be no use anyway as donor.





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Russell

posted on 2/11/10 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Selling the parts is not wrong, it is selling the paper work that is wrong.

A V5only would be no use anyway as donor.


It would be of use if you had a collection of parts sourced from the scrappers but no V5. Some well known kit car companies have been known to sell donor Sierras as a pile of parts plus the V5, so how many parts have to be sold with the V5 for it to become an acceptable thing to do?





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mcerd1

posted on 2/11/10 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
from DVLA:

quote:
Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts
In order to retain the original registration mark:

•cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).

And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.

If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used a car must pass an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) and light goods vans must have a enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.

•motorcycles must use:
Unmodified frame (original or new) and two other major components from the original vehicle; forks, wheels and engine or gear box.

If a second-hand frame is used the vehicle must pass a motorcycle single vehicle approval (MSVA) test after which a 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.



[Edited on 2/11/2010 by mcerd1]





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slingshot2000

posted on 2/11/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
The VIn number may be on a plate, but nowadays it is always stamped into the shell somewhere, and has been for some years! Therefore the VIN number stays with the shell. He is selling the identity that would provide cover to re-identify a stolen vehicle!
In the past I have helped identify stolen Land-Rovers that have had their identitys changed.
It is very wrong !

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