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scootz

posted on 29/4/11 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
Brain Fade... Calculating Rear Sprocket Size!

Can anyone give me a cyber-slap to shock my brain back into action, or alternatively help out with the maths!

I'm trying to work out what rear-sprocket size I'll need for the reverse-trike.

The wheel I'm using is an Avon CR500 (245/55/13) with a circumference of 1787mm

The standard rear wheel for the Aprilia RSV-R Bike has a circumference of 1973mm.

The Aprilia ratio's are:





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zilspeed

posted on 29/4/11 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
You need the Westgarage gearing calculator.

Another thing.

What top speed are you aiming for ?
What does the engine rev to ?

[Edited on 29/4/11 by zilspeed]






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daviep

posted on 29/4/11 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
If you are trying to get the same gearing then you need a 36 tooth sprocket on the back. I think

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trikerneil

posted on 30/4/11 at 05:22 AM Reply With Quote
My calcs agree with Daviep, 36 tooth rear sprocket for the same gearing as the bike.

However you might consider slightly lower gearing as you will be moving more weight with the Trike.

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scootz

posted on 30/4/11 at 07:42 AM Reply With Quote
Cheers people!





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scootz

posted on 30/4/11 at 07:49 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Another thing.
What top speed are you aiming for ?
What does the engine rev to ?



The engine maxes out at 11k rpm.

I hadn't really thought about top-speed... I'd think that 100mph would be enough!

[Edited on 30/4/11 by scootz]





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MikeRJ

posted on 30/4/11 at 08:20 AM Reply With Quote
You probably don't want to aim for the original RSV gearing; it's very long, requiring plenty of clutch slipping in first. Most owners drop a tooth or two on the front which turns an already quick bike into a bonkers device that likes to point it's front wheel skywards most of the time.

Where did you get the rolling circumference numbers from, they both seem a little bit low?

I wrote a gearing calculator for the RSV in Excel which you are welcome to. The built in rolling circumference calculator uses a fixed 97% of static circumference which seems to tie in with published in gear speeds, but obviously you can change this to suit.

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zilspeed

posted on 30/4/11 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
Personally, I would be gearing it as short as possible.

You're never going to get it up at the mad speeds the bike will do, so why not gear it short so all the gears in the box become available to you.
Maybe look for a top end of maybe 120mph ?

Going on 10500rpm rather than 11000, a 53 tooth rear sprocket would give 119mph on a 21.68 Inch diameter tyre.
A 60 tooth sprocket would give 105mph. If you really are going to rev it out to 11000, 110mph.

I would have the 60 tooth sprocket as the vehicle is going to be all about point and squirt at speeds under 100mph.
Anything more is irrelevant.

Mikes calculator backs this up with the following intermediates through the gears.

1st 39.93
2nd 55.48
3rd 69.62
4th 82.97
5th 94.28
6th 102.32

40mph in first is still enough for anyone.

[Edited on 30/4/11 by zilspeed]






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posted on 30/4/11 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
Mine is going to be geared like a crosser...mad acceleration but not so mad top speed.
Mainly because I drove the Hotbuggy a few years ago which was fitted with a humble CBR600 motor from the early pig styled things, it had an huge sprocket and hit the limiter really quickly....what a hoot to drive but a cow to stop as your feet bounce off the damn pedals(has two brake pedals for this very reason...





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scootz

posted on 30/4/11 at 10:22 AM Reply With Quote
Ta for the inputs!

This is my favoured combo so far... could be a bit wearing if cruising though.




[Edited on 30/4/11 by scootz]





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MikeRJ

posted on 30/4/11 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
What's the target weight for your trike? It's going to be mad as a box of frogs with a low geared Mille engine

If you don't already have them, you can get the Aprilia service manuals for the engine and rest of the bike here.

[Edited on 30/4/11 by MikeRJ]

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scootz

posted on 30/4/11 at 01:48 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mike.

I'd love to get over 500bhp/tonne, so anything under 280kg would be a boost!





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Ivan

posted on 30/4/11 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
Scootz - although your chosen gearing might well cause it to accelerate like a warm cat don't you think that more than 10 minutes of driving it at 7000RPM at 70 MPH will become very tedious - never mind all the bikers etc who suggest you change up a gear as they pass you.

I suppose the one big plus is that it is easy enough to change a sprocket if you need to. Wonder if a dérailleur system could be made to work on chain driven BEC's then you could have overdrive

[Edited on 30/4/11 by Ivan]

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